Go Back   Horizons Unlimited - The HUBB > Technical, Bike forums > Other Bikes Tech
Other Bikes Tech For Technical Questions on bikes not listed in the other forums.
Photo by Josephine Flohr, Elephant at Camp, Namibia

I haven't been everywhere...
but it's on my list!


Photo by Josephine Flohr,
Elephant at Camp, Namibia



Like Tree94Likes

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #136  
Old 18 Oct 2015
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: UK
Posts: 4,343
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tim Cullis View Post

As I said, he was a normal guy, no offroad god, so no criticism of his decision. I am used to riding solo and am equipped with my Sudoko books, music on my iPod, films on my MacBook and so on. Others are not used to the solitude and find it difficult.
Absolutely, who would any of us be to criticise an individual's personal decision?

Contrary to my last post, I have looked back, briefly, at the quoted thread posted elsewhere to remind myself of the writer and his decision to curtail the ride because, at that time of writing, it was the most interesting aspect, to me, of his ride ---- "Will he or won't he continue the trip" -- "hang out for the next episode" kind of interesting aspect, rather as the TV writers of drama achieve.
But, in this case, he was writing from the heart about those psychological aspects and that is far more interesting to me than reading about those who accomplished a plan that "all went swimmingly" and "how good am I?"- that style of script is a big turn off in my case.
Only he really knows his own mindset in total but he does express some of the physical and mental ups and downs of his ride and the frustrations that ensued; perhaps Tommyturtle will turn up on here someday and elaborate.
__________________
Dave
Reply With Quote
  #137  
Old 18 Oct 2015
Tim Cullis's Avatar
Super Moderator
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: London and Granada Altiplano
Posts: 3,080
Quote:
Originally Posted by Walkabout View Post
I don't recall it as being a "bodge"; the customer's needs were met, pretty quickly and across the Atlantic, and he was satisfied with that service from CCM. That is my memory of the riders' postings at that time.

If he himself had used the term bodge I believe I might have remembered such, and the Advdribble masses might well have descended upon the thread also.
I also went back to the original thread on AdvRider. After finding the axle was broken he took the bike into Gunnison Motor Sports who managed to find an axle off a Husqvarna bike that fitted. Nice bodge.

You see my expression as a pejorative, I don't.
__________________
"For sheer delight there is nothing like altitude; it gives one the thrill of adventure
and enlarges the world in which you live,"
Irving Mather (1892-1966)
Reply With Quote
  #138  
Old 19 Oct 2015
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: UK
Posts: 4,343
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tim Cullis View Post

You see my expression as a pejorative
In the context of this thread about the new GP450, certainly.

Here is the bodger sub-forum; I do consider this quite unlike even the workshop fix that you mention, irrespective of whatever it was that CCM did for the bike owner.
http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hubb/bodger-fix/
__________________
Dave
Reply With Quote
  #139  
Old 9 Nov 2015
Registered Users
New on the HUBB
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 19
Some experience riding a GP450 through Africa

I posted this on another thread about selecting a bike for a diminutive lady with off road capability. Several options were listed one of which was a CCM GP450. "Walkabout" asked me to add my reply into this one.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
In your initial post you mentioned the CCM GP450 as a consideration.
Just wanted to let you know that I rode mine from Capetown to Dar Es Salaam between June and August this year.
They do a low seat version and I understand are selling quite a few to lady riders.
I did 10,000 km. It is a very capable off road bike - much better than me - but it does make you feel much safer when away from tarmac. My son was on a BMW G650GS (single cylinder) which I rode when he fancied swapping. In contrast this was heavy unwieldy and ...well.. bloody horrible ...when off road. On tarmac it was much smoother.

The CCM was fine on tarmac. More than fast enough for all roads in Africa. Feels relatively unstressed up to 110Kph. Covers 20/22km per litre which gives it a range up to 400km. The most I did was 320km before getting some black market fuel from a guy selling out of vegetable oil containers in a village.

I had a high output generator fitted but being honest never really connected "stuff" to the bike beyond a GPS and a pair of spotlights. Had no problems with battery performance which was nice because I wasn't too sure about the super light weight and small lithium ion battery fitted as standard.
I did have some problems. The starter motor packed up but they sent a replacement which was easy to fit.
Also you need to understand that the BMW engine is a detuned racing unit. This means that it feels "busy" in comparison to typical dual purpose single pot power plants fitted with a balancer shaft. It gives it an immediacy which is great when you are in the mood. But it does vibrate. This does not really affect the riding experience once you are used to it but you have to be very careful to check all fasteners regularly otherwise bits will fall off!
In theory I could have done the journey without servicing but I did 2 oil changes and one spark plug + air filter. Relatively straightforward to do but the body work is a pain to refit - something to do with it being "stressed" into place during manufacture. I am sure a reasonably competent person (not me!) could sort that out before going on a long journey by aligning the various mounting points.

All in all I think the bike is a very good choice for Africa. Other owners have done South America (following Dakar) and the USA (coast to coast) so it does seem to be robust enough
It is expensive but if you can get a test ride off road I think you will notice the difference in the performance in comparison to normal dual purpose machines.
I hope this information is of some help.
Reply With Quote
  #140  
Old 11 Dec 2015
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: UK
Posts: 4,343
It's the time of year when dealers sell some demonstrator bikes; even the manufacturer, CCM, is doing so:
https://www.facebook.com/ccmmotorcycle/

It was the best stand at the recent UK "NEC" show by the way, IMO.
As can be seen in some of the pics in the link.

It is rumoured that CCM took 30 orders for their production line during the UK show.
__________________
Dave
Reply With Quote
  #141  
Old 14 Mar 2016
Registered Users
HUBB regular
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Bath UK
Posts: 92
My new CCM is arriving at the beginning of April, this will be my first Brand new bike since 1974, and my first modern bike......getting quite excited it will be baptised during the South West Peninsular Rally. What attracted me to the CCM? Ultra light weight it's about 80 KGs lighter than my current travelling bike (a 90/6), brilliant suspension and love the bonded frame.

Hopefully it will persuade me to go places that I wouldn't dare take the 90/6, bit worried about shrinking my camping kit to fit the smaller bike.

For those who think that the CCM is expensive, the company has revised their prices over the past few months, producing an S version complete with luggage, Cush drive etc etc and the Lowered bikes (790mm seat height) cost the same as the normal ones (they used to be much more expensive) . I did a price comparison against the Rally Raid CB500 and comparing new for new and roughly the same specs, the bikes are in the same price range, so it comes down to whether or not you want the heavier smoother twin cylinder Honda engine, versus the lighter less refined single cylinderCCM.
Reply With Quote
  #142  
Old 17 Mar 2016
Moderator, Contributing Member
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Lancashire England
Posts: 313
Hi Chasbmw,

well I've also placed an order for one.

I've gone for the low chassis but high seat option which allows me to almost flat foot (and that's with a 28in inside leg) but still gives a comfortable angle to my knees.

I went with the S model as well.

Just awaiting for the build date to be confirmed and as I live less than 4 miles from the factory then I'll be using any excuse to return!

I must remember to order one of those new fangled upper chain guard thingies.

Enjoy your purchase.

Have you had the pleasure of a factory tour yet?

Regards

Reggie
Reply With Quote
  #143  
Old 17 Mar 2016
Moderator, Contributing Member
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Lancashire England
Posts: 313
Quote:
Originally Posted by Walkabout View Post
It's the time of year when dealers sell some demonstrator bikes; even the manufacturer, CCM, is doing so:
https://www.facebook.com/ccmmotorcycle/

It was the best stand at the recent UK "NEC" show by the way, IMO.
As can be seen in some of the pics in the link.

It is rumoured that CCM took 30 orders for their production line during the UK show.
Hi There,

they've had their best ever month in February, by selling more than 50 bikes!

Looks like they've got a hit on their hands and that's before they get homologated for the US market.

Regards

Reggie
Reply With Quote
  #144  
Old 18 Mar 2016
Registered Users
HUBB regular
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Bath UK
Posts: 92
Reggie, I'm down south so my test ride was on Salisbury plain! I'm on the cusp for frame sizes, gone for standard frame with low seat.

I'll visit the factory when I take it back for its first service.

Reply With Quote
  #145  
Old 18 Mar 2016
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: UK
Posts: 4,343
Great stuff to know that the CCM production line is busy!

From the CCM website, they have a couple of dealers in place for the UK now (one is advertising the SWM brand on UK ebay) and they continue to run test ride events around the UK.

Has anyone part exchanged a machine direct with CCM?
__________________
Dave
Reply With Quote
  #146  
Old 18 Mar 2016
Registered Users
HUBB regular
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Bath UK
Posts: 92
My mate Henry pxed his 990/950 KTM adventure with CCM and got what he considered to be a reasonable deal. If you email Darren Soothill with details and photos of your bike he should be able to get you a price. Darren can also be found on Facebook.
Darren is very enthusiastic about the bike and very keen to sell them, so a good person to talk to if you want a test ride.

Generally I have found that everyone I have dealt with the factory is helpful and responsive.
Charles

Last edited by chasbmw; 21 Mar 2016 at 16:37.
Reply With Quote
  #147  
Old 17 Apr 2016
Registered Users
New on the HUBB
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Maidstone, Kent.
Posts: 6
Hi Folks,

I've had my GP450 for a month or two now.
I'm just back from a week in Devon, a round trip of 1,000 miles from home in Kent.
While I was there, Devon Wheels2Work did my 500 mile service.

I went for the S version, upgraded generator, spot lights, the manual remote adjustable rear shock and the WP front forks.

I'm doing Mini Mondo with Austin Vince in October in the Pyrenees, which was the reason to choose the CCM.

Let's have a CCM meet up at HUBB UK

Charles.
Reply With Quote
  #148  
Old 18 Apr 2016
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: UK
Posts: 4,343
From strength to strength

Anyone who has not seen these bikes in the flesh/metal can find 3 photos in the link below, posted in the last 24 hours, that give some idea of the quality of finish etc:-
http://adventurebikerider.com/forum/...t=10&start=320
__________________
Dave
Reply With Quote
  #149  
Old 18 Apr 2016
mollydog's Avatar
R.I.P.
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: california
Posts: 3,822
Quote:
Originally Posted by CCM-Chas View Post
Hi Folks,
I've had my GP450 for a month or two now.
I'm just back from a week in Devon, a round trip of 1,000 miles from home in Kent. While I was there, Devon Wheels2Work did my 500 mile service.

I went for the S version, upgraded generator, spot lights, the manual remote adjustable rear shock and the WP front forks.

I'm doing Mini Mondo with Austin Vince in October in the Pyrenees, which was the reason to choose the CCM.

Let's have a CCM meet up at HUBB UK

Charles.
Sounds great Charles!
Can you give us a short review of your new bike? Must be quite a shock coming off a 40 year old R90/6 BMW! You mentioned the CCM will be your first new bike in 40 years ... can we assume you've owned a few "used" bikes in the interim? Ever ridden or owned any other dirt bikes or dual sport bikes?
How does your CCM compare riding ON and OFF road?

I'd love to own a CCM but none sold in USA. Can't afford one either. I'd love to know how it feels riding fast highway at 70 mph after 2 hours or so. Also, how does it do on technical single track?

My Suzuki DRZ400-E was good on single track if not too difficult, but still heavy, bit hard to manage compared to previous 250 two stroke enduros or even former XR250R. (a great bike!)

But the DRZE was not set up to carry luggage ... and your CCM is. This is a very good thing. XR250 was also BAD for luggage (no rear subframe) I had to bodge together a funky system ... not good.


Luggage came off twice, got into rear wheel. PITA on this 3 week Baja Ride.
Reply With Quote
  #150  
Old 18 Apr 2016
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: West Yorkshire UK
Posts: 1,785
Quote:
Originally Posted by Walkabout View Post
Anyone who has not seen these bikes in the flesh/metal can find 3 photos in the link below, posted in the last 24 hours, that give some idea of the quality of finish etc:-
http://adventurebikerider.com/forum/...t=10&start=320
That assembly area is a right **** tip! How can you build a quality product when you can't tell if the bit on the floor fell off the bike or the pile of bits spread over some other bit of workshop?

Amateur hour in both Stores/production and PR departments and so easy to solve

Andy
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 Registered Users and/or Members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Finally, a single cylinder adventure bike colebatch Which Bike? 305 27 Aug 2015 16:04
Europe Adventure johnnington Travellers Seeking Travellers 15 1 May 2013 21:44
Moto Adventure Nights - London - Second event july1 Motorcycle Events around the world 0 21 Mar 2013 19:29
The Meaning of Adventure WarthogARJ HU Travellers Meetings - UK 3 17 Jul 2012 23:31
DR650 SE or KTM Adventure? Zimi Which Bike? 31 16 Feb 2012 19:07

 
 

Announcements

Thinking about traveling? Not sure about the whole thing? Watch the HU Achievable Dream Video Trailers and then get ALL the information you need to get inspired and learn how to travel anywhere in the world!

Have YOU ever wondered who has ridden around the world? We did too - and now here's the list of Circumnavigators!
Check it out now
, and add your information if we didn't find you.

Next HU Eventscalendar

HU Event and other updates on the HUBB Forum "Traveller's Advisories" thread.
ALL Dates subject to change.

2024:

2025:

  • Queensland is back! Date TBC - May?

Add yourself to the Updates List for each event!

Questions about an event? Ask here

HUBBUK: info

See all event details

 
World's most listened to Adventure Motorbike Show!
Check the RAW segments; Grant, your HU host is on every month!
Episodes below to listen to while you, err, pretend to do something or other...

2020 Edition of Chris Scott's Adventure Motorcycling Handbook.

2020 Edition of Chris Scott's Adventure Motorcycling Handbook.

"Ultimate global guide for red-blooded bikers planning overseas exploration. Covers choice & preparation of best bike, shipping overseas, baggage design, riding techniques, travel health, visas, documentation, safety and useful addresses." Recommended. (Grant)



Ripcord Rescue Travel Insurance.

Ripcord Rescue Travel Insurance™ combines into a single integrated program the best evacuation and rescue with the premier travel insurance coverages designed for adventurers.

Led by special operations veterans, Stanford Medicine affiliated physicians, paramedics and other travel experts, Ripcord is perfect for adventure seekers, climbers, skiers, sports enthusiasts, hunters, international travelers, humanitarian efforts, expeditions and more.

Ripcord travel protection is now available for ALL nationalities, and travel is covered on motorcycles of all sizes!


 

What others say about HU...

"This site is the BIBLE for international bike travelers." Greg, Australia

"Thank you! The web site, The travels, The insight, The inspiration, Everything, just thanks." Colin, UK

"My friend and I are planning a trip from Singapore to England... We found (the HU) site invaluable as an aid to planning and have based a lot of our purchases (bikes, riding gear, etc.) on what we have learned from this site." Phil, Australia

"I for one always had an adventurous spirit, but you and Susan lit the fire for my trip and I'll be forever grateful for what you two do to inspire others to just do it." Brent, USA

"Your website is a mecca of valuable information and the (video) series is informative, entertaining, and inspiring!" Jennifer, Canada

"Your worldwide organisation and events are the Go To places to for all serious touring and aspiring touring bikers." Trevor, South Africa

"This is the answer to all my questions." Haydn, Australia

"Keep going the excellent work you are doing for Horizons Unlimited - I love it!" Thomas, Germany

Lots more comments here!



Five books by Graham Field!

Diaries of a compulsive traveller
by Graham Field
Book, eBook, Audiobook

"A compelling, honest, inspiring and entertaining writing style with a built-in feel-good factor" Get them NOW from the authors' website and Amazon.com, Amazon.ca, Amazon.co.uk.



Back Road Map Books and Backroad GPS Maps for all of Canada - a must have!

New to Horizons Unlimited?

New to motorcycle travelling? New to the HU site? Confused? Too many options? It's really very simple - just 4 easy steps!

Horizons Unlimited was founded in 1997 by Grant and Susan Johnson following their journey around the world on a BMW R80G/S.

Susan and Grant Johnson Read more about Grant & Susan's story

Membership - help keep us going!

Horizons Unlimited is not a big multi-national company, just two people who love motorcycle travel and have grown what started as a hobby in 1997 into a full time job (usually 8-10 hours per day and 7 days a week) and a labour of love. To keep it going and a roof over our heads, we run events all over the world with the help of volunteers; we sell inspirational and informative DVDs; we have a few selected advertisers; and we make a small amount from memberships.

You don't have to be a Member to come to an HU meeting, access the website, or ask questions on the HUBB. What you get for your membership contribution is our sincere gratitude, good karma and knowing that you're helping to keep the motorcycle travel dream alive. Contributing Members and Gold Members do get additional features on the HUBB. Here's a list of all the Member benefits on the HUBB.




All times are GMT +1. The time now is 22:17.