It seems very difficult to have a rational discussion / argument here (with point and counterpoint), either due to personal bias or misunderstanding the discussion.
For clarity, I am trying to make a case that there is no evidence (so far) that it would be dangerous for citizens of NATO countries to visit Russia since the latest Russian offensive. So the (open) questions I asked at the end of my previous point were genuine, seeing if we have any evidence for harrasment.
Your points are mostly tangential.
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Originally Posted by upanddown.voyage
Well, Russia has even imprisoned most of their native opposition.
Please explain 'most'. Are you referring to events which took place during Stalin's tenure?
And yes, they have been harassing Ukrainians, especially those on Crimea and in the Donbas and Lushenk area who did not want to submit. Hell, they are even harrassing Georgians in Georgia beyond the line of control in South Ossetia (which they are constantly pushing further into Georgia).
Evidence of harassment of Ukrainians in Crimea since the offensive?
Donestsk, Luhansk or Lugansk, (not Lushenk), and Georgia are not in Russia.
They have closed down the German TV office in Moscow and taken the accreditation of all those journalists. They have been closing office of international and local NGOs
A reasonable point, although in the case of Deutsche Welle it happened before the latest offensive.
So yeah - I would say that there are plenty of reports of harassment going on.
Cheers,
Benjamin
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