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Putin was elected by the ordinary russian people, he has become a dictator with their approval and as long as they still support him, they are as guilty as he is of the bloodshed that is going on.
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Don't agree at all. I've been in Moscow twice in the last six weeks and spoke with many of my Russian friends. They unanimously told me:
1) they did not have any interest at all in taking over Ukraine; and
2) they thought Putin was bluffing and would not do anything.
Since the invasion, I've only heard from one friend, and she wrote to tell me that she was ashamed. Another friend with Russian friends and family told me that none of the Russians he'd spoke with supported the war. Finally, another friend told me that one of his Russian friends (living in Russia) wrote him to say that she and her friends hoped that Russia would get whacked with severe sanctions to make it pay.
As to your point about "they are as guilty as he is"---bullshit. Their votes don't matter. Peaceful protests don't matter, and they are at least arrested for their trouble, sometimes fired (in a bad economy). So their only solution is revolution--hardly to be taken lightly, and requiring a critical mass that is very, very, very difficult to achieve.
So stop blaming the Russian people for this madness--it is all Putin.
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Originally Posted by motoreiter
Don't agree at all. I've been in Moscow twice in the last six weeks and spoke with many of my Russian friends. They unanimously told me:
1) they did not have any interest at all in taking over Ukraine; and
2) they thought Putin was bluffing and would not do anything.
Since the invasion, I've only heard from one friend, and she wrote to tell me that she was ashamed. Another friend with Russian friends and family told me that none of the Russians he'd spoke with supported the war. Finally, another friend told me that one of his Russian friends (living in Russia) wrote him to say that she and her friends hoped that Russia would get whacked with severe sanctions to make it pay.
As to your point about "they are as guilty as he is"---bullshit. Their votes don't matter. Peaceful protests don't matter, and they are at least arrested for their trouble, sometimes fired (in a bad economy). So their only solution is revolution--hardly to be taken lightly, and requiring a critical mass that is very, very, very difficult to achieve.
So stop blaming the Russian people for this madness--it is all Putin.
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Good to hear a Russophile with extensive experience of living in Russia sharing ordinary Russians' views and calling out some people's random emotive ramblings as what they are.
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