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German bike and Swiss license no no in Korea
As I have stated many times.. it turns out to be a big BS..
Just this week ,. a Swiss rider with German registered bike came thru Korea from Vladivostok.
He has sent me an EM, from Russia, with this myth ,, concern.
Just told him come thru and sure enough he passed right thru the customs, at Sok Cho and have shipped his bike today to Canada via In-Cheon AP.
So don't listen to this fable if you are riding a German reg bike or have a Swiss license. Korea has opened up. (Still,, If you send the bike to ICN by cargo ,, you might meet a voodoo customs official, who insists on the 1949 treaty) Use Wendy Choi do the import paper work.
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As I have stated many times.. it turns out to be a big BS..
Just this week ,. a Swiss rider with German registered bike came thru Korea from Vladivostok.
He has sent me an EM, from Russia, with this myth ,, concern.
Just told him come thru and sure enough he passed right thru the customs, at Sok Cho and have shipped his bike today to Canada via In-Cheon AP.
So don't listen to this fable if you are riding a German reg bike or have a Swiss license. Korea has opened up.
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i entered through incheon airport using my Hong Kong Drivers license and Canada plated motorcycle, zero problems, all they wanted to see was my international drivers license and registration, they never batted an eye that they were from very different countries
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2 Aug 2013
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Globe Riders Korea
My brother riding club, who has in the past met some of you on the road as well in Korea. I have sent many of them to meet you off the boat at Sok Cho or Dong Hae has come aboard on HUBB.
If any of you coming to Korea, wishes to meet ,, share or need assistance, please contact my brothers.
http://cafe.naver.com/motorcycletrav...lubid=13673174
Soon I am turning my summer house on the river in Yang Pyung into a biker club,, let you know.
If you need further assistance ,, you know how to get hold of me.
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22 Aug 2013
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Travels of "Cloud Drift"
Happy to report ,, a young Korean,, has just completed one year and two months of RTW, on his small BMW.
He first only intended in doing the SIberia ,, but he kept on going.
Left Korea in June of 2012 ,, transiberia, Northern Europe, Southern Europe,, Turkey to Egypt then to S.Africa ,, cross the ocean to Argetina ,, Padagonia ,, up to Chile ,, over the Central America ,, Mexico ,, California ,, all the way upto Prudhoe Bay, Alaska.
This is a second Korean rider, who has done this,,
Congradulation are in order.
Whenever, you meet a Korean rider ,, I hope HUBBers will become fast friends with them and lend out any helping hand if you can.
For we are ready to assist you in Korea.
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30 Aug 2013
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Amazing Kiwis ,,
These Kiwis .. came to S.Korea from Magadan via North Korea from Baekdu Mountain thru the DMZ.
Taking them out to din din manana ,,
Motorcycle Adventure travel - World By Bike
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31 Aug 2013
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Amazing Kiwis ,,2
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Russian Village in Seoul
When ever I miss Russian food ,, I go to the Russian village ,,right in the middle of Seoul. You will find small hotels, shops, restaurants and trading companies that do a busy commerce, with Russian tourists that come to Seoul.
Food is good ,,a nice Russian bakery,,, often you will see a group of Russian tourists and students.
Perhaps ,, those passing through to go to Russia,, should spend a day or so and get a feel for the food?
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26 Feb 2014
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EDD's myth on bond at the ICN Airport
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Temporary Importation of your motorcycle into Korea
you have two choices: use a broker or do it yourself.
Broker:
Before you arrive send copies of your your registration, international license and passport to wendychoi2 <<AATT>> gmail [[DDOTT]] com and have her do the temporary customs clearance for US$100. (plus insurance)
Yourself:
you will need proof of (Korean) insurance, temporary import bond, and paper work.
i was given this address for motorcycle insurance <samsungfire.com> before you arrive send an email to Jinhee (Carrie) Park (siberiainlove <<AATT>> yahoo [[DDOTT]] com), she will sell you Korean insurance for as long (or short) as you need, it is possible to buy just two days if you want. she will send you a copy of your policy through your email.
there is a computer (with internet & printer) in the customs office should you need to use it.
before you head to the customs office, ensure that you have your way bill papers (photo copy is sufficient) insurance policy (photo copy/ email print out is sufficient), international drivers license, registration, and passport.
the customs office is located on B1 in the main passenger building of the international passenger building. level 3 is departures, level 2 offices, level 1 arrivals, level B1 parking and restaurants. look for the signs "Customs Baggage Clearance", the office is on the far right side of the building on B1 level, directly bellow aisle A on level 3. you see double doors and a corridor, head straight, then there is a corridor to the right, turn right, half way down, the customs office is on the left, head on in. office is open on sunday, but nothing will get done until monday, office opens at 9am. ask for Mrs. Shin, she has helped me, and Doggle, she knows what needs to happen. her desk is hidden behind the little wall on the left of the customs office, she doesnt deal with the importation part, but will assist you through the process.
customs will try and tell you (insist) that you need a broker, they insisted at least three times, i said that i will do it myself, eventually they stopped asking.
first is insurance: inform Mrs. Shin that you have your korean insurance print out/ policy, and your passport, international license, registration.
Next is bond: she tried to tell me that i need to put a deposit of W1,620,000, to which i declined, and said that its possible to buy import bond (or something like that) for around US$200. if you had a korean bank account, it is possible to get all your money back, but that was more time and effort then i care to do. i ended up paying W160,000 to the non customs official in the office, i didnt get a receipt, but i was happy not to ask for one.
last is paper work: the customs do all the paper work, they tell you to go for lunch for about an hour. i got the feeling that they didnt want to do the paper work, hence insisting that i get a broker.
i arrived at 9am, and was finished by 2pm (getting insurance cost me over 2hrs)
when everything is finished at the customs office, you have all your papers and are ready to leave, take the elevator to level 3 (departures), outside door "3" is a free shuttle bus to the cargo buildings. there are three cargo buildings A, B, and C. make sure you know where you are going. my bike arrived with korean air, which is cargo building A. Mrs. Shin escorted me to the bus stop, and told the driver where i wanted to go (she really is HUGE help).
the first smaller building was nothing, the larger cargo building behind is where you want to go, inside the office part first, long row of desks.. there was a young guy who spoke decent english that escorted me over to the cargo admin office to pay some fees and receive my bike. i paid W61,270 and they gave me my bike. ensure that they return your original import form issued from the customs office.
IMPORTANT: the last ferry to leave the island is 6:30pm..... if you miss it. go to a police station, and see if they will assist you in finding a truck to put your bike in to get you over the bridge, cost you around W50,000
the length of your temporary importation will be based on how many days your temporary insurance is.
which option is better?
as with everything in life, you need to decide which you have more of, time, money, or effort.
as you can see, i choose to do it myself, but with the ferry leaving tuesday morning for zarubino, there were a few moments that i was wondering if i made the right choice....
(i have no connection to the Jinhee (Carrie) Park or Mrs. Shin, only that i dealt with them while i was temporary importing my motorcycle. i have since asked both of them for permission to pass on their names and or contact details for others that might need their help) |
Edd ,, I tracked down the famous and kind Mrs. Young Jin SHIN.
Spoke with her at length ,, she has sent me your receipt for 160,000 won including the articles of the import rules set by the Korean Customs and Excise.
That was a third party guarante,, from some one, whom you only just met ,, guaranteeing that you will take the expensive BMW bike out of Korea. That guarantor was Hal Ryul KIM ,, 160,000 was a stamp fee. Had you sold your bike ,, that Mr. Kim would have paid for the import tax of your bike. The receipt clearly shows your name ,, even though you took off ,, they kept it for the records sake.
At same note , it seems you got unlucky by pursuing own customs clearance. (Vooddoo interpretation, I spoke of) Had you used Wendy ,, none of this issues would have come up. All those arriving from Russia, Japan or China ,, including ocean and air freight into ICN,, never had this experience, before. I am attaching the so call receipt ,, you left behind. Receipt dated June 22, 2013.
I hope others take lesson from this , do not go through the language and geographical maze on you own ,, simply hire Wendy or other forwarder for a lousy 100 bucks ,, and just show up and drive off your bike.
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Shipping Out OF Korea to Your Next Destination
Air Freight,,
We have all the major international airlines arriving on daily basis.
You name it , KLM to Garuda,, Air Canada to United Airlines,,,,, Gulf AIr, Indian Air,, Two Russian carriers.
Korean Air and Asiana flies direct to Mongolia to Uzbekistan,, Paris to Mexico City,, London to Istanbul.
Freight seems to ca USD 2500 - 3000 to all destinations,,
Those needing a pallet, for the bike simply call http://www.harley-korea.com/web/website/main.asp , https://www.suzuki.co.kr// or http://www.bmwmotorrad.co.kr/,, https://www.hondakorea.co.kr/ (Google) ,, They will oblige quite eagerly. Korean nature. These have branches in Seoul, Busan and Dae Gu.
You will have an import declaration on you as you would have come off a passenger carrying ferry from Russia, China or Japan. Simpy hand this over this Wendy,, tell her to negotiate the rate from the carrier. (She works for a very small forwarding agency and her rate might not be very competitive. Last two riders,, I did the negotiation, with the airlines at 2,500 each to Canada) Or you deal with the carrier then have Wendy book,, either way she gets her commission, as a forwarder. Have the pallet delivered to the terminal.. you would pay the transport of the pallet ,, round USD 100 ,, 150 to ICN air cargo terminal ,, but far cheaper than a time it takes to make the custom wooden box + weight of the bloody thing will cost you more in freight. Remember it is always weight or measure, which ever is greater is what shipping companies charge. With pallets,,, you simply ride on,, strap down with ready straps and ready made eyes and holes on the pallet.
Ocean freight.
Two major ro-ros ,, Wallenius goes to Japan, Seattle, Long Beach, Jacksonvill then New Jersey ,, then to UK ,, Germany.
Wallenius Wilhelmsen Logistics - worldwide ocean transport, inland services, supply chain solutions, terminal services
Eukor,, stands for Europe-Korea ,, a JV with Hyundai and Wallenius,,, goes China, Singapore, India, Turkey, Italy, France, UK and Germany.
http://www.eukor.com/index.jsp
RO-RO ,, no boxes ,, easier ,, cheaper.
If not ,, hiring a full 20ft ocean container is 3-4,000 dollars, unless you can pack 4 - 6 bikes ,, does not make sense.
This is where, house hold movers come in,,, there are Korean business and Korean communities, in every major cities of the world ,, Dar es Salam to Brisbane ,, Chile to Moscow. And tons of house hold movers, with niche market. Same as air cargo ,, find a pallet ,, pack it and ship as a LCL (less than contailer) ,, you will pay around USD 65- 100 per CBM.
Two big ones ,
Han Jin ocean carriers and forwarding,, owned by Korean Air..
HANJIN SHIPPING : Main
Korea Express ,, a Sam Sung family owned forwder.
CJ korea express
They have offices in major cities in your country ,, helps, when you are talking to the same agent at both end.
You can call them direct,, but then all the hassle of voodoo explanation.
It will cost extra 100 ,, call Wendy and have her book it. For Aussies and Kiwis ,, this would be the best bet, since no direct ro-ro from Korea to downunder.
Transit time on ocean ,, ro-ro to US west coast ,, 7 days ,, east coast 15 days.
To UK ,, appx 28 days. In between ,, Singapore 6 days ,, India 17 days on and on. In fact it might faster to ship from Korea to Europe, on east bound Wallenius. Since Eukor sailing is infrequent vs Wallenius every week. Unless you are going to Mediterranean or before destinations.
Cost
To USA ,, about USD 800 west coast,,, 1200 to east coast + Wendy + stevedore 100 both end ,, cargo release 100 or so for both ro-ro and house hold.
This should be ample info for you to google and figure out with Wendy.
If you have any emergencies or in a dire ,, do not hesitate to call me. M 010-4765-4984
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is this first hand knowledge? based on personal experiences?
or just stuff that you found on google?
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3 Mar 2014
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I tracked down the famous and kind Mrs. Young Jin SHIN.
Spoke with her at length ,, she has sent me your receipt for 160,000 won including the articles of the import rules set by the Korean Customs and Excise.
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First of all, why are you holding a copy of my receipt? Did you request my permission to collect it?, lie to get it or (I wouldn’t think so) just accept an offer to receive it from her? Someone else’s private business will never be any of yours, its rather nosy to be so much as entertained with the idea of being in possession of it.
Secondly, why are you raising the very mention of import rules or anything about Customs & Excise? I broke no laws, did nothing untoward, so they don’t even warrant a mention.
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That was a third party guarante,, from some one, whom you only just met ,, guaranteeing that you will take the expensive BMW bike out of Korea. That guarantor was Hal Ryul KIM ,, 160,000 was a stamp fee. Had you sold your bike ,, that Mr. Kim would have paid for the import tax of your bike. The receipt clearly shows your name ,, even though you took off ,, they kept it for the records sake.
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an explanation was not needed, i was explaining the process.
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At same note , it seems you got unlucky by pursuing own customs clearance. (Vooddoo interpretation, I spoke of) Had you used Wendy ,, none of this issues would have come up. All those arriving from Russia, Japan or China ,, including ocean and air freight into ICN,, never had this experience, before.
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unlucky?
it was a great experience, isnt that what an adventure is all about?
the reason that i didnt use wendy was, i didnt see the need to spend the "lousy 100 bucks"
if i were to do it again, i still would do it by myself
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never had this experience, before.
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actually, your not correct here, i wasnt the first, others have done the same procedure... to which i was given the info on how it was done, but rather then keep the info/ experience to myself, i thought that i would share, with the hope that others might find it useful.
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I hope others take lesson from this
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that it was my mistake, to willful post info on the internet, that might help others,
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do not go through the language and geographical maze on you own ,, simply hire Wendy or other forwarder for a lousy 100 bucks ,, and just show up and drive off your bike.
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As it happens, I got through the whole process unscathed, saved some money, had an experience, learnt something new, had no problems with anyone or anything and added to the …. ohh, what’s the word? What are all these bike trips about? Yes, that’s right: Adventure.
I also did something: I posted about it for everyone to read so that others can learn from my experience and maybe do it themselves. I SHARED. I gave something back to the community, unlike you, who simply turns around to attack and insult someone for sharing.
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The receipt clearly shows your name ,, even though you took off ,, they kept it for the records sake.
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perhaps in the future, before collecting someone else's personal items and posting it on the internet, you might actually send the individual a pm, asking for permission...
at least that would be the polite thing to do
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