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The ferry leaves Zarubino every Thursday 5PM and arrives Sok Cho 11AM on Friday.

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Passenger Tariff ca USD 400 per head for a non-cattle sleep.

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Freight for the bikes ca USD 300 per bike?

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as the title of this thread is "Riding Pointers in Korea" this is what i found out:

The ferry leaves Sokcho for Zarubino every Tuesday at 1pm, the Sokcho International Terminal opens at 7:30am, go in the main doors, on the far right is a corridor, (or drive to the right side of the building) half way down, another turn and then you can see the Stena office, this is the cargo office (your ticket comes later on) go in and tell them that you have a motorcycle that you will be bringing with you. they will start the paper work. as for spoken languages, there was a korean man (and a russian woman) working in the cargo section that spoke pretty good english. i paid W581,524 for a bmw xchallenge, not sure if its a set price, as they didnt look at the bike, just gave me a price (and an official receipt). there is an ATM in the building for you to withdraw your money, and the cargo guy will assist you through the process. somewhere around 11am, cargo guy will bring you over to where you can buy your ticket for the ferry.

i chose the cheap rooms, as the ferry was empty, i paid W90,000 for a one way ticket and had the room to myself. shower facilities onboard (brilliant hot shower)

important to ensure, that when you leave incheon airport you have the original import document that the customs office issued you with. as customs in sokcho, will NOT accept photo copies
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As I have stated many times.. it turns out to be a big BS..
Just this week ,. a Swiss rider with German registered bike came thru Korea from Vladivostok.
He has sent me an EM, from Russia, with this myth ,, concern.
Just told him come thru and sure enough he passed right thru the customs, at Sok Cho and have shipped his bike today to Canada via In-Cheon AP.

So don't listen to this fable if you are riding a German reg bike or have a Swiss license. Korea has opened up.
i entered through incheon airport using my Hong Kong Drivers license and Canada plated motorcycle, zero problems, all they wanted to see was my international drivers license and registration, they never batted an eye that they were from very different countries
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Globe Riders Korea

My brother riding club, who has in the past met some of you on the road as well in Korea. I have sent many of them to meet you off the boat at Sok Cho or Dong Hae has come aboard on HUBB.
If any of you coming to Korea, wishes to meet ,, share or need assistance, please contact my brothers.

http://cafe.naver.com/motorcycletrav...lubid=13673174

Soon I am turning my summer house on the river in Yang Pyung into a biker club,, let you know.

If you need further assistance ,, you know how to get hold of me.

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Travels of "Cloud Drift"

Happy to report ,, a young Korean,, has just completed one year and two months of RTW, on his small BMW.
He first only intended in doing the SIberia ,, but he kept on going.
Left Korea in June of 2012 ,, transiberia, Northern Europe, Southern Europe,, Turkey to Egypt then to S.Africa ,, cross the ocean to Argetina ,, Padagonia ,, up to Chile ,, over the Central America ,, Mexico ,, California ,, all the way upto Prudhoe Bay, Alaska.
This is a second Korean rider, who has done this,,
Congradulation are in order.
Whenever, you meet a Korean rider ,, I hope HUBBers will become fast friends with them and lend out any helping hand if you can.
For we are ready to assist you in Korea.
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Amazing Kiwis ,,

These Kiwis .. came to S.Korea from Magadan via North Korea from Baekdu Mountain thru the DMZ.
Taking them out to din din manana ,,

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Amazing Kiwis ,,2

Great din din....
http://www.vice.com/the-vice-guide-t...rcycle-diaries
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Russian Village in Seoul

When ever I miss Russian food ,, I go to the Russian village ,,right in the middle of Seoul. You will find small hotels, shops, restaurants and trading companies that do a busy commerce, with Russian tourists that come to Seoul.
Food is good ,,a nice Russian bakery,,, often you will see a group of Russian tourists and students.
Perhaps ,, those passing through to go to Russia,, should spend a day or so and get a feel for the food?
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How to import a vehicle to Korea

If you arrive from China, Russia or Japan, with your vehicle, on a ferry,,you simply declare to the customs,, temporary importation of your car or bike. Process will take less than an hour. Import fee is nominal USD 15 or so for the stamp duty. Then you walk over to the ferry agent and ask for an insurance company,,insurance for the vehicle is ca USD 45 for 30 days. (liability only motorcycle,, cars more)
Make sure to guard the customs declaration, with your life, and show original form as you exit,, or you will face a great hassle.

If you are sending the vehicle by ocean or air carrier from overseas,,,
1) Get hold of Wendy Choi (I have no affiliation,, never held her hand ,, never had a free lunch from her)
Her mobile is +82 (0)10-6213-3961
EM is wendychoi2(at)gmail.com
AERO INTERNATIONAL CO.LTD.,TEL:02-372-6181 FAX:02-375-8145 M)010-6213-3961
Office is at Mapo District, Seoul,, plenty of motels,, Her office is 10 minutes by taxi to the famous Hong Dae University entertainment area. Full of young people at all hours,, restaurants,, clubs etc. Click the street view.
https://maps.google.co.kr/maps?expfl...=A&gl=KR&hl=en

2)Fax her in advance copy of your passport, international drivers license, your bike registration and the shipping document.

3) Have her file temporary import license of your vehicle as a "personal effect"

4) Tell her how long you will stay in Korea and where you will exit i.e., Sokcho to Zarubino, Russia on :::::StenaDaeaLine:::::

5) Have her contact her automobile insurance company and pre-arrange a temporary vehicle insurance. Should not cost more than 45 USD for 30 days. (liability only is avaliable)

6) If your bike arrives in a wooden crate,, you will be liable for crate transport from the vessel to staging area then unpacking. If by ro-ro stevedore charges you ca USD 40 for driving the bike off the ramp. In case of air cargo, you simply go to the cargo terminal. You and airline employees uncrate.

7) Wendy's fee is USD 100 for the import declaration - license. (She has lowered her fee to USD 50 as of June, 2014)

8) Have Wendy have her company get on the Pay Pal list ,, you can send her the fees for insurance etc in advance. So you will have the docs, when you arrive.

Those, who does not use Wendy or other forwarder,,ends up at a local DMV,, (not necessary to do so ) have to run around the port or air port between the customs and freight company and subject to all sorts of voodoo interpretation of the law by the often unqualified staff, who never had seen a foreigner arrive with a bike or insists on 1949 Geneva convention)
This will cost you many hours, where else if use Wendy. After having sent all the documents, you just show up at the point of pick up of your vehicle and drive off.

Wendy's fee of 100+ possibly USD 200 more for other charges,, (Uncrating of the box etc)
Wendy works for a freight forwarder ,, I have no idea, who at the HUBB discovered her many years ago, but she has now fine tuned this bike import and export routine down to the pad and I shamelessly claim that she gained more knowledge of this shipping methodology, through my input to her.

One day if Wendy is not available, we will have alternative forwarders in Korea, such as Korea Express, who is owned by Sam Sung group, for all their shipments ,, with offices all over the world. I have used them on many occasions and the price is same.
Global Network l CJ korea express
Owned by Sam Sung group of companies.
or
https://www.hanjin.com/hanjin/CUP_HO...?sessLocale=en
Owned by Korean Airline ,, one of the largest container shipping line.

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Temporary Importation of your motorcycle into Korea
you have two choices: use a broker or do it yourself.

Broker:
Before you arrive send copies of your your registration, international license and passport to wendychoi2 <<AATT>> gmail [[DDOTT]] com and have her do the temporary customs clearance for US$100. (plus insurance)

Yourself:
you will need proof of (Korean) insurance, temporary import bond, and paper work.

i was given this address for motorcycle insurance <samsungfire.com> before you arrive send an email to Jinhee (Carrie) Park (siberiainlove <<AATT>> yahoo [[DDOTT]] com), she will sell you Korean insurance for as long (or short) as you need, it is possible to buy just two days if you want. she will send you a copy of your policy through your email.

there is a computer (with internet & printer) in the customs office should you need to use it.

before you head to the customs office, ensure that you have your way bill papers (photo copy is sufficient) insurance policy (photo copy/ email print out is sufficient), international drivers license, registration, and passport.

the customs office is located on B1 in the main passenger building of the international passenger building. level 3 is departures, level 2 offices, level 1 arrivals, level B1 parking and restaurants. look for the signs "Customs Baggage Clearance", the office is on the far right side of the building on B1 level, directly bellow aisle A on level 3. you see double doors and a corridor, head straight, then there is a corridor to the right, turn right, half way down, the customs office is on the left, head on in. office is open on sunday, but nothing will get done until monday, office opens at 9am. ask for Mrs. Shin, she has helped me, and Doggle, she knows what needs to happen. her desk is hidden behind the little wall on the left of the customs office, she doesnt deal with the importation part, but will assist you through the process.
customs will try and tell you (insist) that you need a broker, they insisted at least three times, i said that i will do it myself, eventually they stopped asking.

first is insurance: inform Mrs. Shin that you have your korean insurance print out/ policy, and your passport, international license, registration.

Next is bond: she tried to tell me that i need to put a deposit of W1,620,000, to which i declined, and said that its possible to buy import bond (or something like that) for around US$200. if you had a korean bank account, it is possible to get all your money back, but that was more time and effort then i care to do. i ended up paying W160,000 to the non customs official in the office, i didnt get a receipt, but i was happy not to ask for one.

last is paper work: the customs do all the paper work, they tell you to go for lunch for about an hour. i got the feeling that they didnt want to do the paper work, hence insisting that i get a broker.


i arrived at 9am, and was finished by 2pm (getting insurance cost me over 2hrs)


when everything is finished at the customs office, you have all your papers and are ready to leave, take the elevator to level 3 (departures), outside door "3" is a free shuttle bus to the cargo buildings. there are three cargo buildings A, B, and C. make sure you know where you are going. my bike arrived with korean air, which is cargo building A. Mrs. Shin escorted me to the bus stop, and told the driver where i wanted to go (she really is HUGE help).

the first smaller building was nothing, the larger cargo building behind is where you want to go, inside the office part first, long row of desks.. there was a young guy who spoke decent english that escorted me over to the cargo admin office to pay some fees and receive my bike. i paid W61,270 and they gave me my bike. ensure that they return your original import form issued from the customs office.

IMPORTANT: the last ferry to leave the island is 6:30pm..... if you miss it. go to a police station, and see if they will assist you in finding a truck to put your bike in to get you over the bridge, cost you around W50,000

the length of your temporary importation will be based on how many days your temporary insurance is.


which option is better?
as with everything in life, you need to decide which you have more of, time, money, or effort.

as you can see, i choose to do it myself, but with the ferry leaving tuesday morning for zarubino, there were a few moments that i was wondering if i made the right choice....

(i have no connection to the Jinhee (Carrie) Park or Mrs. Shin, only that i dealt with them while i was temporary importing my motorcycle. i have since asked both of them for permission to pass on their names and or contact details for others that might need their help)
Edd ,, I tracked down the famous and kind Mrs. Young Jin SHIN.
Spoke with her at length ,, she has sent me your receipt for 160,000 won including the articles of the import rules set by the Korean Customs and Excise.
That was a third party guarante,, from some one, whom you only just met ,, guaranteeing that you will take the expensive BMW bike out of Korea. That guarantor was Hal Ryul KIM ,, 160,000 was a stamp fee. Had you sold your bike ,, that Mr. Kim would have paid for the import tax of your bike. The receipt clearly shows your name ,, even though you took off ,, they kept it for the records sake.

At same note , it seems you got unlucky by pursuing own customs clearance. (Vooddoo interpretation, I spoke of) Had you used Wendy ,, none of this issues would have come up. All those arriving from Russia, Japan or China ,, including ocean and air freight into ICN,, never had this experience, before. I am attaching the so call receipt ,, you left behind. Receipt dated June 22, 2013.

I hope others take lesson from this , do not go through the language and geographical maze on you own ,, simply hire Wendy or other forwarder for a lousy 100 bucks ,, and just show up and drive off your bike.
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Shipping Out OF Korea to Your Next Destination

Air Freight,,
We have all the major international airlines arriving on daily basis.
You name it , KLM to Garuda,, Air Canada to United Airlines,,,,, Gulf AIr, Indian Air,, Two Russian carriers.
Korean Air and Asiana flies direct to Mongolia to Uzbekistan,, Paris to Mexico City,, London to Istanbul.
Freight seems to ca USD 2500 - 3000 to all destinations,,
Those needing a pallet, for the bike simply call http://www.harley-korea.com/web/website/main.asp , https://www.suzuki.co.kr// or http://www.bmwmotorrad.co.kr/,, https://www.hondakorea.co.kr/ (Google) ,, They will oblige quite eagerly. Korean nature. These have branches in Seoul, Busan and Dae Gu.

You will have an import declaration on you as you would have come off a passenger carrying ferry from Russia, China or Japan. Simpy hand this over this Wendy,, tell her to negotiate the rate from the carrier. (She works for a very small forwarding agency and her rate might not be very competitive. Last two riders,, I did the negotiation, with the airlines at 2,500 each to Canada) Or you deal with the carrier then have Wendy book,, either way she gets her commission, as a forwarder. Have the pallet delivered to the terminal.. you would pay the transport of the pallet ,, round USD 100 ,, 150 to ICN air cargo terminal ,, but far cheaper than a time it takes to make the custom wooden box + weight of the bloody thing will cost you more in freight. Remember it is always weight or measure, which ever is greater is what shipping companies charge. With pallets,,, you simply ride on,, strap down with ready straps and ready made eyes and holes on the pallet.

Ocean freight.
Two major ro-ros ,, Wallenius goes to Japan, Seattle, Long Beach, Jacksonvill then New Jersey ,, then to UK ,, Germany.
Wallenius Wilhelmsen Logistics - worldwide ocean transport, inland services, supply chain solutions, terminal services

Eukor,, stands for Europe-Korea ,, a JV with Hyundai and Wallenius,,, goes China, Singapore, India, Turkey, Italy, France, UK and Germany.
http://www.eukor.com/index.jsp

RO-RO ,, no boxes ,, easier ,, cheaper.
If not ,, hiring a full 20ft ocean container is 3-4,000 dollars, unless you can pack 4 - 6 bikes ,, does not make sense.

This is where, house hold movers come in,,, there are Korean business and Korean communities, in every major cities of the world ,, Dar es Salam to Brisbane ,, Chile to Moscow. And tons of house hold movers, with niche market. Same as air cargo ,, find a pallet ,, pack it and ship as a LCL (less than contailer) ,, you will pay around USD 65- 100 per CBM.

Two big ones ,
Han Jin ocean carriers and forwarding,, owned by Korean Air..
HANJIN SHIPPING : Main


Korea Express ,, a Sam Sung family owned forwder.
CJ korea express

They have offices in major cities in your country ,, helps, when you are talking to the same agent at both end.
You can call them direct,, but then all the hassle of voodoo explanation.
It will cost extra 100 ,, call Wendy and have her book it. For Aussies and Kiwis ,, this would be the best bet, since no direct ro-ro from Korea to downunder.

Transit time on ocean ,, ro-ro to US west coast ,, 7 days ,, east coast 15 days.
To UK ,, appx 28 days. In between ,, Singapore 6 days ,, India 17 days on and on. In fact it might faster to ship from Korea to Europe, on east bound Wallenius. Since Eukor sailing is infrequent vs Wallenius every week. Unless you are going to Mediterranean or before destinations.

Cost
To USA ,, about USD 800 west coast,,, 1200 to east coast + Wendy + stevedore 100 both end ,, cargo release 100 or so for both ro-ro and house hold.

This should be ample info for you to google and figure out with Wendy.
If you have any emergencies or in a dire ,, do not hesitate to call me. M 010-4765-4984

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is this first hand knowledge? based on personal experiences?
or just stuff that you found on google?
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I tracked down the famous and kind Mrs. Young Jin SHIN.
Spoke with her at length ,, she has sent me your receipt for 160,000 won including the articles of the import rules set by the Korean Customs and Excise.
First of all, why are you holding a copy of my receipt? Did you request my permission to collect it?, lie to get it or (I wouldn’t think so) just accept an offer to receive it from her? Someone else’s private business will never be any of yours, its rather nosy to be so much as entertained with the idea of being in possession of it.

Secondly, why are you raising the very mention of import rules or anything about Customs & Excise? I broke no laws, did nothing untoward, so they don’t even warrant a mention.

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That was a third party guarante,, from some one, whom you only just met ,, guaranteeing that you will take the expensive BMW bike out of Korea. That guarantor was Hal Ryul KIM ,, 160,000 was a stamp fee. Had you sold your bike ,, that Mr. Kim would have paid for the import tax of your bike. The receipt clearly shows your name ,, even though you took off ,, they kept it for the records sake.
an explanation was not needed, i was explaining the process.

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At same note , it seems you got unlucky by pursuing own customs clearance. (Vooddoo interpretation, I spoke of) Had you used Wendy ,, none of this issues would have come up. All those arriving from Russia, Japan or China ,, including ocean and air freight into ICN,, never had this experience, before.
unlucky?
it was a great experience, isnt that what an adventure is all about?
the reason that i didnt use wendy was, i didnt see the need to spend the "lousy 100 bucks"
if i were to do it again, i still would do it by myself

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never had this experience, before.
actually, your not correct here, i wasnt the first, others have done the same procedure... to which i was given the info on how it was done, but rather then keep the info/ experience to myself, i thought that i would share, with the hope that others might find it useful.

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I hope others take lesson from this
that it was my mistake, to willful post info on the internet, that might help others,

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do not go through the language and geographical maze on you own ,, simply hire Wendy or other forwarder for a lousy 100 bucks ,, and just show up and drive off your bike.
As it happens, I got through the whole process unscathed, saved some money, had an experience, learnt something new, had no problems with anyone or anything and added to the …. ohh, what’s the word? What are all these bike trips about? Yes, that’s right: Adventure.
I also did something: I posted about it for everyone to read so that others can learn from my experience and maybe do it themselves. I SHARED. I gave something back to the community, unlike you, who simply turns around to attack and insult someone for sharing.

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The receipt clearly shows your name ,, even though you took off ,, they kept it for the records sake.
perhaps in the future, before collecting someone else's personal items and posting it on the internet, you might actually send the individual a pm, asking for permission...

at least that would be the polite thing to do
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The Receipt

Receipt not containing your credit card number nor your passport number,, is not considered as a "private", when it was issued by a government agencies in Korea. The receipt was scanned and delivered to me by EM. When I confronted them with 'Why no receipt" and "For what?

You wrote " i didnt get a receipt, but i was happy not to ask for one." an implication, that it was some sort of bribery perhaps, upset my national pride greatly. Korean government may be less transparent than those of USA or UK ,, that too may be in question... but no one, in Korea will screw around with, 160,000 WON to risk a government job. I had to know if some one at the airport was ripping off HUBBers. (Governement worker of Mrs. Shin's rank,, is about USD 80,000 per annum, including bonuses and perks. Ratio of job applicants for such a life time job is 12,000 to 1)

Had you not used those lines, I would not have contacted Mrs. Shin,,, nor such thing as bond exists as you have claimed.
All others walks in or flies in, with out such fees. Because of my lenghty conversation, with Mrs. Shin,, she vowed that In Cheon International customs, will follow guidelines such as Bu San port, where hundreds of Japanese comes to Korea, with vehicles. Vis a vis hundreds of same goes to Japan from Korea. ICN customs will simplify the process.

As for my shipping knowledge,, I was with Sealand-Maersk, in New York, London,, Dacotrans Grosskopf GmbH of Dusselforf,,, for Nedlloyd BV in Hong Kong and Korea. Korea branch manager / Asia director for Mammoet Transport BV. Before finding my own company.
Dealt with containers, ro-ros , project cargo of 600 - 1,200 ton modules, bridges, plants in one piece from Korea to North Sea, Gulf of Mexico, Middle East, India and Africa. I won the initial forwarding contract for the Great Man Man Made River Project of Libiya for shipping for the 22 billion dollar ,, 12 year project, which I discovered, reading a 3 line article, in the Mid-East Economic Digest, mentioning Brown and Roots having discoved water in the Sahara,,,Libiya wanting a Green Revolution,,,took me three months to dot the lines,, realising that Dong Ah of Korea will get the project,,, to prepare,,I had the survey of all the ports in Libya done.. before the project became official,, giving my firm,, a large competitive edge to comps.
https://www.google.co.kr/search?q=gr...m=122&ie=UTF-8
If you have any shipping questions,, ask away. I still have many friends, as head of shipping lines, in major cities, including Hong Kong. And you ask them ,, From day one at.. after six months,, I never did 9-5 punch in. I worked at my leisure and at my schedule,, made my own decisions ,, traveled, when ever there was need.

You can google those company names above.

Glad you still made the ferry to Russia, after all that exciting adventure, at the ICN.
Good luck.

All others will need to decide,, use a forwarder (They do all the paper work as ,,at the major ports, only the freight forwarder can do the customs clearance request) for lousy USD 100 bucks ,,just show up,,collect the bike and hit the road or do the work as EDD. Have a 9 hour adventure at the In Cheon airport and come away with no receipt.
EDD's break down,, USD 160 for no receipt non existing bond.
24 bucks for a bus out to the airport.
Full day at the airport,,
Could really have faced voodoo interpretation and really had to make a 1,600 USD deposit.
Lastly,, ferry to Russia is not on every day. Next ferry is minimum 4 day window. To Japan 3 - 4 sailings per day. To China daily.

Next time when you call some one a liar,, do it facing that person.
Henceforth... I consider you a persona non grata.

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My Dialogue with customs officials at the ICN

All those,, with bikes or cars arriving at sea port such as Bu San and Incheon,, have no hitches,, especially those arriving from Russia, China or Japan ,, you just claim your cargo or drive off in 2 - 3 hours.

In Cheon International Airport is another story, when you air ship ,, same as Japan.
Perhaps due to the lack of bikes coming through as a "Personal Effect" depending, on who is on duty,, gets the voodoo interpretation of the law.

I've had the lengthy EM dialogue, with the customs and excise at the airport and have CCed Wendy Choi ,,

Jest is that,, I have demanded a uniform treatment of the Anglo riders import by air carrier as hundreds of Japanese bikers and auto travelers coming through the Port of Bu San, with only a signature.

I hope ,, you folks coming through ICN will have an easier time,, from here on , that is the promise I have gotten from them ,, "we will do our best".
I am posting the letters here ,,

All this can be avoided by using a freight forwarder ,, i.e., Wendy Choi.

EM from Korea Customs and Excise at the In Cheon International Airport.
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선생님의 적극적인 대처로 오해가 풀릴 수 있게되어
대한민국 세관을 대표하여 감사드립니다.

그리고, 1949 조항과 관련하여 타 세관 일시반입차량 처리과정을 확인하여
우리세관에 반영가능하면 내부검토후 즉시 반영할 수 있도록 조치하겠습니다.

유선상 서로 정확한 정보없이 대화를 하느라 언성이 높아진 점 죄송하게 생각합니다.
그럼 앞으로도 대한민국 관광 활성화를 위하여 많은 노력 부탁드리며, 다시한번 감사인사 드립니다.

안녕히계세요."

A possible misunderstanding and mistrust could have risen regarding Korea Customs and Excise, due to Ed's receipt. To your energetic efforts, this has been avoided and in behalf of Korea Customs and Excise we thank you.

And for the 1949 articles of the Geneva conference, we will confirm with other customs offices of their process and will,, after internal review ,, if it is possible,, we will take action immediately.

I apologise for raising my voice, with out any prior written understanding. We hope that you continue, with your efforts to improve Korea tourism , and we thank you once more. "

My EM to Korea Customs;
안녕하세요,,,
다시 정리된 마음으로 편지 올립니다 ,,
1949년 조항을 물론 법을 따라아 갰지만 ,,역시 1949 년도 조항입니다 ,, 65년전 일입니다 ,, 작년만헤도 우리 한국 청년 6명,, 여자 둘 , 저포함,,,러시아로 해서 독일은 물론 전 유럽을 ,, 구청에서 발부하는 영문 이륜차 등록증 하나로 모든 국경을 관세 없이 통과 하고 왔습니다.
또 작년에 스위스 운전자가 독일 바이크 로 러시아 자루비노 항에서 속초로 들어와 인천공항에서 카나다 뱅쿠버로 항공화물로 보내졌지만 ,, 항공화물로 들어온 2 독일 바이크는 보세로 속초로 보내 주었고 ,, 우리가 일반 트럭을 대행하여 운반하면 인천공한에서 속초까지 30 만원이면 되는 1톤을 78만원에 옭기고 ,, 또 ,, 아름다운 한국의 강원도 바이크 여행도 몿하고 같다고 실망이 큽니다 ,,

또 ,, 누구는 아무 탈없이 ,, 아무 바용도 안내고 통관 ,, 누구는 160 - 200 만원 보증금을 내라 ,, 누구는 10% 만 내라 ,,

작년에 , 부산한, 인천항, 속초항, 동해항, 인천공항으로 약 200 대의 바이크 들이 들어 왔다가 출국했습니다 ,, 90% 는 일본 바이커들이고 ,, 10% 미국, 유럽 라이더 들입니다 ,, 이 10% 중 ,, 딱 2명 ,, Ed 하고 독일 바이크 2대 만 인천공항에서 ,, 다른 입국처의 휴대품과는 요구하지 않는 법에 걸리는것 같습니다 ,, 또 일본에서 오는 바이커 들은 무조건,, 간단히 일시반출 기간란에 서명만 하고 들어 옵니다 ,, 한국 바이커들 역시 일본 가면 마찬가지 이고요,,
왜 유럽, 미국, 카나다 ,호주 바이커들만 인천공항으로 들어 오면 이렇개 힘든가요? 또 작년 인천공항으로 들어온 다른 바이커 들은 아무 규재없이 개인 사인 하나로 대한민국 세관에 반출 날자 약속 하고 나왔습니다.
그날 담당자가 누군가 가 문재 인가요?

4, 5, 6월에 약 10 대의 바이크들이 한국에 또 들어 옵니다 ,, 3-4 대는 인천공항으로 ,, 그들의 목적은 바로 러시아 로 ,, 세계일주의 꿈을 가진 사람들입다 ,, 대부분이 중고 바이크 들이고 ,, 장사를 할려고 들어 온는 바이크는 한대도 없습니다 ,, 저역시 이들이 들어 오면서 이익을 버는개 없읍니다 ,, 단 제기 바이크로 세계일주 할때 ,, 그들은 어디에 가도 ,, 반겨주고 ,, 도와주고 했습니다 ,, 얼마전 북한으로 해서 BMW 6대로 들어온 뉴질랜드 라이더 들도 우리 그룹입니다 ,, 아무도 그들에게 ,, 관세니 ,, 보증이니 란 말을 안했습니다 ,,

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전번에 보신 사이트 는 세계에서 가장큰 바이크 모험 여행 사이트 이고 휘원만 90,000 명이 넘습니다 ,, 그들은 아프리카 ,, 중동 ,, 히말라야 도 바이크로 갑니다 ,, 세계횡단을 할려면 러시아를 관통해야하며,, 한국이 시작이나 끗이 됩니다 ,, 지금 30세의 영국여자혼자 시베리아 의 눈위를 달리고 있습니다,,
전쟁지역도 타고 가고 ,, 가다 황당한 교통사고 로 많이 죽고 합니다 ,, 어뗜경우엔 부부가 함깨 ,,

Mrs 신 ,, 바이크 는 휴대품과 소관입니다 ,, 이것은 비싼 Rolex 도 아니고 Chanel 가방도 아닙니다 ,, 오히려 ,, 왼만한 악어 가방 반갑도 안나갑니다
이 여행자들을 위하고 ,, 대한민국의 좋은 이미지를 심어 주면 어떨가요?
동료직원들과 심각한 검토를 해주셔서 ,, 4, 월이 되기전에 ,, 방침을 새워 주십시요 ,,
또 빠른 업무를 위해서 ,, 들어 오는 바이커들은 꼭 ,, 통관사를 쓰라고 예기 했습니다 ,, 공항에서 여러사람 피곤하개 만들고 시간 낭비 하지 말라고요 ,,
감사합니다 .
박윤수 배상
010-4765-4984

I am writing, after calming my mind and gathering my thoughts.
1949 article is indeed a law ,, yet it's a 65 year old law. Last year 6 of our young women and men motorcyclists traveled, including my self not only Russia, but Germany and all of Europe just with a English translation of motorcycle registration issued by a local ward office, We were never asked for tax or bonds.

Last year,,, a Swiss license holder using a German bike came from Russia via Sok Cho and sent his bike to Canada, from ICN, with out any problems,, yet two German bike had to be shipped to Sok Cho on a bonded truck,, the fee would have been USD 300 for local bikers,,, yet they had to pay USD 780 for the trucking. They have complained loudly,, the fees and not being able to enjoy the beautiful Gang Won Province,,,

And some comes through ICN, with out a hitch ,, some are demanded USD 1,600 - 2,000 bond ,, some 10% stamp fee etc.
Last year,,, through Bu San, In Cheon, Sok Cho, Dong Hae and ICN ,, some 200 bikes came through and left,, 90% were Japanese,, 10% USA and Europe,,, Only Ed and two Germans,,, were subjected to ICN demands. All Japanese bikers coming through ,, only needs to sign a dotted line on the temporary import license,, same goes for all the Korean bikers going to Japan, when we arrive there.
Why only US, Europe and Australians coming through ICN ,, is it so so difficult? Other bikes that also came through ICN did not have a single problem. Just signed the dotted line,, promising that they will re-export within the given date.
Does it depend on who is on duty that day?

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April, May and June ,, some 10 bikes will come to Korea again ,, 3 or 4 to ICN ,, their purpose is to go straight to Russia,, round the world is their purpose,, to fill their dream. Most of the bikes are used,, none of them are doing it to sell the bikes,,, I too gain nothing when they come through Korea ,,, but in a way I am paying back all the generosity I have received during my own journeys,, Not long ago ,, 6 BMWs came through North Korea ,, no one asked them for taxes,, bonds,, they also are members of Horizons Unlimited.

Horizons Unlimited is the largest online motorcycle adventure site, with 90,000 members ,, they are in Africa,, Himalaya,,Middle East ,,,on their bikes,,, to do the RTW they have to go through Russia from Korea or come out in Korea,, as we speak there is a 30 year old girl ,, riding on the snow of Siberia ,, they go through the war zones,,,, and some of them die on the road ,,,, some together with their spouses.


Mrs. Shin,, these bikes are under Korea Customs PERSONAL ITEMS department ,, these are not expensive Rolex ,, Chanel bags ,, half the price of a crocodile bag ,,
How about helping these travelers and give them a good impression of Korea?
Kindly give a serious discussion with your colleagues,, and before April comes,, put out a policy, for them to pass through unhindered.
At same time I have asked fellow riders to use the freight forwarder to save every one's time and frustration.
Thank you, "

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Sending Several Bikes to Korea

Do not list all the bikes in ONE BILL OF LADDING or ONE AIRWAY BILL.
Especially the air cargo.
Use SEPARATE shipping document for each bike. We had recently two bikes on one shipping document,, as dangerous goods ,, Bruce,, they missed beautiful Korean scenery , beautiful women ,, wonderful bath houses , had to have their bike shipped to Sok Cho in a bonded truck. No wine with moi. ;(
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