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Just curious to know if Steffen ('survivor' of Yana's track) is going to do it alone on his XChallenge and if Muztoo will do it next week... Would be nice to also have feedback of some other on this as well.
I think the Bartang can be great fun (as I experienced it) but also a nightmare depending on conditions (bike-rider-weather).
Still contemplating this. Just talked to the girl at the Khorog Info. She said a car made it through this week. So, they must have cleared the rockfall. She was also very nonchalant about it and after I mentioned that she should probably give more realistic info to riders, she said, "Oh, but they all love it." Hmm?
Talked to some knowledgeable local drivers and they say they do make it through a few times a year.
I also ran into the two Austrian cyclist you talked to. We talked quite a while about the track and they claim they never said it shouldn't be done on a bike :-)
There is definitely something funny about the water levels here. Water is pretty high right now, even here in Khorog. Something you'd expect in spring and early summer elsewhere. I guess it makes sense that snow melts very late in the summer in the very high mountains.
Pamir is awesome and I plan to make best use of my visa :-) Everything I expected and much more.
I also ran into the two Austrian cyclist you talked to. We talked quite a while about the track and they claim they never said it shouldn't be done on a bike :-)
Very strange, as I clearly remember the tall one saying it could be possible if you are an experienced rider and the shorter one saying he didn't think it would be possible. They talked about it amongst themselves before we met. Anyway, I did not say they said it shouldn't be done, they told me they had doubts if it could be done, as I mentioned. Big difference between should or could huh...?
But in the end, who cares? I did it, Adam did it, so it has been proven that one can do it on a bike. What is impossible for one is easy for another and vice-versa...
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Pamir is awesome and I plan to make best use of my visa :-) Everything I expected and much more.
Amen to that!!! I don't understand why everybody wants to go to Mongolia, Pamir is way more interesting than Mongolia in my opinion...
I just hope the area will get some more attention, it deserves it.
It is really a nice valley, but I doubt if motorbikers rushing through is the kind of attention the Bartang deserves. Interestingly we met different guys, that did it by foot this year.
It is really a nice valley, but I doubt if motorbikers rushing through is the kind of attention the Bartang deserves. Interestingly we met different guys, that did it by foot this year.
Any tourism Tajikistan receives im sure will be welcome be it on bicycle or motorbike but as Seb mentioned this route will not be for all motorbikes as it is clearly only possible on smaller type enduro bikes so i dont it is going to be nuremberg ring road anytime soon
Very strange, as I clearly remember the tall one saying it could be possible if you are an experienced rider and the shorter one saying he didn't think it would be possible. They talked about it amongst themselves before we met. Anyway, I did not say they said it shouldn't be done, they told me they had doubts if it could be done, as I mentioned. Big difference between should or could huh...?
They are really great guys and I had fun talking with them over breakfast. They do think cyclists should be doing it East to West.
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Amen to that!!! I don't understand why everybody wants to go to Mongolia, Pamir is way more interesting than Mongolia in my opinion...
Unless you get a track from Walter, get hit by a Lada, arrested, put in quarantine and make some friends along the way
The landscapes in the Pamir are like a different planet and the people in the Wahkan valley are just so exceptionally friendly. Interestingly, quite a few of the older people speak passable German. They had it in school. Can't get my head around that one. What were the Soviets thinking when they came up with that plan? German, of all languages?:confused1:
I am still waiting to see your pics from after Tsengel ! When will you be home?
Shame on me! Life on the road: so much to see, so little time. I'll have a few rest days in Osh after I get out of Tajikistan. I put it on my to do list.
Was great to see Seb minutes after he got out of the Batang Valley track. Talk about first hand account. Life is full of coincidences and "Yana Track" survivors seem to have a special cosmic connection.
Interestingly, quite a few of the older people speak passable German. They had it in school. Can't get my head around that one. What were the Soviets thinking when they came up with that plan? German, of all languages?:confused1:
At least in the bigger cities, in USSR schools you could usually choose between learning English or German, sometimes even French and Spanish. But I'm quite sure in rural areas it all came down to the teachers available. As there were a lot of German speakers relocated to Kazakhstan, that probably explains your observation.
At least in the bigger cities, in USSR schools you could usually choose between learning English or German, sometimes even French and Spanish. But I'm quite sure in rural areas it all came down to the teachers available. As there were a lot of German speakers relocated to Kazakhstan, that probably explains your observation.
Well, the family I stayed with in Savnob clued me in. Germans from the western parts of the USSR were relocated to Tajikistan, among other soviet republics, because they were deemed a security threat during WW 2.
Bartang Valley was amazing. Conditions pretty much same as Seb described, minus the rock fall. Water maybe a little higher, judging from the size of the "island".
Saw Patrick and his group. They didn't see me though, as I was up a hill to the side of the track.
At least in the bigger cities, in USSR schools you could usually choose between learning English or German, sometimes even French and Spanish. But I'm quite sure in rural areas it all came down to the teachers available. As there were a lot of German speakers relocated to Kazakhstan, that probably explains your observation.
I met some people in Tajikistan who served in the USSR army in East Germany, Whilst staying in the same small Pamir village for a total of 2 weeks various family's would show me old photos and many where of older family members in East Germany
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