Hi Thierry!
Yes I know, the guided tour costs are astronomical, yet having said this the border permit costs themselves are also quite substantial. A crossing of China is not yet ‘cheap’ by any means, but at least one can save on the cost of guide after Xinjinag.

@ Yokesman...which site are you referring to?
Have a look at my latest blog, Ricard’s contact details are at the end Click here

I should have perhaps detailed the fact that China Tierra de Aventura does not yet advertise this service and this is why I took on the task to outline as much as possible and share as much info as I can, to save them having to answer all the repetitive emails. Hopefully, by the time my second post is done, most overlanders will just contact him for a quote...knowing all the requirements involved.
Anyway, I’ll try and get Part 2 posted today! Cheerio to all

great news....
i'm planing crossing China in two and half years...more than enough time for preparation...

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Thank you for that great news!

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Hello Laura,

thank you very much for posting this here, maybe it could also work for me next year. But I will enter from the Far East of Russia.

I have just contacted you over your blog. Pls forward my email address to Ricard, so I can get in contact with and see what which way to get my bike and myself over the border.

Enjoy your journey, hope to meet you on the road on day.

Greetings from Finland
mika

I am wondering if I can take a ferry from Japan somewhere to china and ride China with my own USA registered motorcycle without having a guide with me? I did not list China as a potential country on my Carnet, so I'm also wondering if China requires a Carnet?

Hi,

I have registered (and paid) to do a month long loop through China. I'm an rtw rider and am progressing up through SE Asia. I'm due to start the tour on Nov 6.

The long and the short of it is that the tour operator is turning out to be a really strange and abrasive guy. I was warned about him, but thought I'd take my chances. Looks like that was a mistake.

There's still time to get a refund and find another operator.

I have written to 'Ride China' twice, with no answer.

Does anyone have the name of a good tour operator in China?

Thanks.

Regular ferry sailings Japan to Yantai, Shandong Province

hello scootpilot,

Sorry, I just saw your message this morning. China does not recognize the CDP at all, hence the need for special permits etc etc

Unfortunatelly i have to agree. No chances only with CDP

Seems changes are coming as per China Daily Newspaper....

Rules eased for foreign tourists on road trips
China Daily Newspaper 2015-09-03

China has simplified procedures for international travelers who drive cars through the country, making it more practical.

The ministries of Public Security, Foreign Affairs and the National Tourism Administration jointly released a notice in late August to manage international tourists' driving trips in China, effective Oct 1.

"Public security bureaus and tourism administrations at all levels are no longer issuing approval documents for international tourists' self-driving trips in China. Organizations should not require these documents to issue driving permits for international travel," the notice said.

According to the notice, all international tourists' driving trips must be arranged by a certain number of tourism agencies with approval licenses. Agencies must arrange tour guides to follow the entire trip. No individual trip is allowed.

"It is a sign that China's tourism is going global and becoming more open, aiming to link to the world," said Wei Xiao'an, China Tourism Leisure Association secretary-general, adding that the regulation is not for foreigners who reside in China but for tourists only.

"Under current policy, it is very complicated to have a self-driving trip for international tourists, including going through public securities and customs. The complex procedure makes foreigners' self-driving hardly possible in China," Wei said, adding that the new policy might be a signal to gradually nurture the market of foreigner's driving trips.

However, Wei said it is hard to predict the potential of the market. "It depends heavily on the tourism products and season," he said, adding that the notice is only a start for the market to grow.

"Currently, foreign travelers' driving business accounts for less than 1 percent of the company's inbound tourism business," said Yu Liangbing, deputy general manager of inbound tourism under China CYTS Tours, adding that many countries have complicated procedures regarding foreigners' driving, not only in China.

He also hopes that the future policies regarding foreigners' driving can continue to be simplified.

"For instance, if international travelers rent vehicles in China, there will be more specific policies to manage their trips," he said.

Web-link = http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2...t_21781620.htm

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Lets see wich effects this "publication" on the pricing of the agencies will have.....

Wolfi
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Maybe you can use ATA to china.ATA is Admission Temporaire Carnet.

I think he means www.chinatierrasdeaventura.com for which there is a link in the "about" part of their Facebook page. Seems that the domain is no longer active.

yes the link say .Page not found ?
any other ? thanks for sharing!
S.

Now that the OP had removed the blog post on which she explained the procedure she followed I think we can consign this thread to the 'red herring' department. Good for her for pulling it off but it was a one off.
I have unstuck this thread.

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