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Old 5 Jan 2012
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Mongolia to China

Down south from UB to southern border town of Zamiin Uud is not very difficult. UB - Choir - 240 km paved road, Choir - Zamiin Uud is 450 km is just jeep track (a lot of corrugation), the hard part with only a couple of small villages in between where you can get fuel but no hotel, guesthouse.
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Thanks Gunnermon, that's exactly the information I was looking for!
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Hoi Ekke,

Now that the Mongolian economy is booming thanks to Chinese demand for their commodities, expect that road (the main road between China and Mongolia) to be updated in the near future. I would not be surprised if it becomes fully paved in the next 5 years.

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We're playing with a few ideas and one that has come up is riding to Ulaanbaatar from the west as discussed and then instead of heading north to Russia we turn right towards China. A tour company in China indicates that it is possible to join a group going from Erlynhot on the Mongolian border to Beijing and on south to Shanghai where we would catch a boat and the remainder continue on to Laos.

I haven't had much luck finding information on the road south in Mongolia. I notice that Walter's waypoints (http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...aypoints-50860) don't show anything down that way either. So that means it is either easy to find fuel and accommodation or no-one has done it and reported waypoints. Does anyone have any information on this road? Is it similar to the "road" west or is it a truck route full of tractor-trailer rigs blasting along a paved road?

In our planning we have also budgeted about 10 days to cross from the west to Ulaanbaatar.
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.I would say that a reasonable speed to maintain would be about 50km / hour.
It will be quite tiring, and the going will be heavy in places.
I would say a 3 hour ride before lunch break, then a 3 hour ride after lunch break.
If you can get 6 hours riding in, then I say you would be around 250 km to 300 km a day.
Thanks Vette and others, yes this is about what I had been thinking would be typical - maybe even a little slower in some places like through mountains. I had been figuring on averaging about 150 km/day, every day, when you take into account things like local exploration, breaks, delays, and such. So you might do 200km a day for three days and nothing the next. I'm glad that this doesn't seem unreasonable.

The other thing I'm doing is having multiple routes planned so that I can change the plans on the fly - eg. if I feel like sticking around a particular area for a few days, or hurrying through. I'm getting close to finalising it and will post it when done.
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