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Hello,
I have a doubt about border crossings open to foreigners from Kyrghizistan to Uzbekistan.
I read the following somewhere on the internet:
"Dostyk/Dustlyk: main border crossing on the road between Osh and Andijon. Public transport and shared taxis are available on both sides.
Uch-Kurgan: border crossing on the road between Karakol and Namangan.
Khanabad: border crossing on the road between Jalal-Abad and Andijon. Update: may 2013, jalalabad- khanabat border was closed."
Now, Uchkurgan seems to be here: 41.112469 72.086577
In the file I see a boder waypoint in a different city with similar name here: 40.229996 72.060002
Wich one is the right one?
I will be coming from Bishkek and I will have to go to Tashkent, so I need to know if I have to ride to Osh or if I can enter Uzbekistan before.
Thanks!
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Originally Posted by crisidsto
Hello,
I have a doubt about border crossings open to foreigners from Kyrghizistan to Uzbekistan.
I read the following somewhere on the internet:
"Dostyk/Dustlyk: main border crossing on the road between Osh and Andijon. Public transport and shared taxis are available on both sides.
Uch-Kurgan: border crossing on the road between Karakol and Namangan.
Khanabad: border crossing on the road between Jalal-Abad and Andijon. Update: may 2013, jalalabad- khanabat border was closed."
Now, Uchkurgan seems to be here: 41.112469 72.086577
In the file I see a boder waypoint in a different city with similar name here: 40.229996 72.060002
Wich one is the right one?
I will be coming from Bishkek and I will have to go to Tashkent, so I need to know if I have to ride to Osh or if I can enter Uzbekistan before.
Thanks!
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They are both border crossings ... I have renamed the more southerly one "Fergana" for future updates of the file to avoid confusion.
As for the more northerly border you referred to, You are welcome to try it and revert back to us if it works for foreigners.
The actual border facility you would try seems to be at N41.10166 E72.17800
Note, about a month ago, Snoah tried a border nearby (Isboskan 15 km away) and was rejected ... he had to go via Osh. His report and maps are here:
ADVrider - View Single Post - RTW with Noah on a KTM 690
Remember that Uzbez / Kyrgyz borders are the most volatile in the region and are subject to open and close at short notice. What might be open one month may be closed the next. Even last years info can be out of date.
So as of last month, both the Isboskan and the next border along at Jalalabad-Khanabad (60 km further east) were both closed to foreigners. Let me know how you go at Uch-Kurgan.
But if I was a betting man, I would say the border guards at Isboskan who turned away Noah, would have told him to use the Uch-Kurgan border if it was open to foreigners on motorcycles - since its just 15 km away from where he was. The fact that he was sent back to Osh, implies that Osh was the nearest open border crossing for him.
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They are both border crossings ... I have renamed the more southerly one "Fergana" for future updates of the file to avoid confusion.
As for the more northerly border you referred to, You are welcome to try it and revert back to us if it works for foreigners.
The actual border facility you would try seems to be at N41.10166 E72.17800
Note, about a month ago, Snoah tried a border nearby (Isboskan 15 km away) and was rejected ... he had to go via Osh. His report and maps are here:
ADVrider - View Single Post - RTW with Noah on a KTM 690
Remember that Uzbez / Kyrgyz borders are the most volatile in the region and are subject to open and close at short notice. What might be open one month may be closed the next. Even last years info can be out of date.
So as of last month, both the Isboskan and the next border along at Jalalabad-Khanabad (60 km further east) were both closed to foreigners. Let me know how you go at Uch-Kurgan.
But if I was a betting man, I would say the border guards at Isboskan who turned away Noah, would have told him to use the Uch-Kurgan border if it was open to foreigners on motorcycles - since its just 15 km away from where he was. The fact that he was sent back to Osh, implies that Osh was the nearest open border crossing for him. |
I will try it in less then 2 months on motorcycle and will let you know.
So now we have the following borders:
-Uch-Kurgan (east of Namangan): we don't know if it's open (it looks like it was in 2012)
-Khanabad closed to foreigners as of last month
-Isboskan closed to foreigners as of last month
-Dostyk/Dustlyk (Osh) open to foreigners
-Uch-Korgon (southwest of Osh, now called "Fergana") : we don't know if it's open
I think this Uch-Kurgan/Uch-Korgon thing does not help as for confusion...:confused1:
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Just to let you know, the "Kalybay Benzin" (name of the waypoint) gas station on the road between Karabutak and Aralsk in Kazakhstan is closed already since some time. Nearest gas station is south, in Irgiz (25 km off the M32; gravel road).
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I will try to go from Uzbekistán to Kyrgyzstan in a few days, so I will pay attention to whatever you can add and report back with how I do.
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1 Jul 2013
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July Update
A small one this time:
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Just wanted to say thanks again for the valuable resource. The following might be useful:
- OVIR (registration) in Astana: N 51.17123 E 071.42290
- a slight correction to the Uzbek Consulate in Almaty - a block further up the road at: N 43.26042 E 076.96330
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will incorporate in August update, thx mate
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How timely! How long did the OVIR registration take you? Any other pointers?
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Just wanted to say thanks again for the valuable resource. The following might be useful:
- OVIR (registration) in Astana: N 51.17123 E 071.42290
- a slight correction to the Uzbek Consulate in Almaty - a block further up the road at: N 43.26042 E 076.96330
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Well, we got lost and ended up at the police station. From there, a plain-clothed cop took pity on us, escorted us by car to the registration office, and bumped us to the front of the line. We were done in 15min, but be prepared for big queue.
Be as specific as you can with your dates and travel plans, even if you're not sure. They'll short-change your registration dates if you just appear to be drifting through, which means you'll have to re-register later.
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Another useful one for Almaty - Eldoro restaurant: N 43.26078 E 076.95296
Run by local biker, Yeldos. Super nice guy, who'll go out of his way to make sure you and your bike are good to go. See him if you need parts, advice, or just a good pizza.
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Sorry for the mini hijack, but it might be useful for somebody else running a search.
OVIR registration went fine. They'll only give you 10 days in Astana. After that it gets more complicated and they insist you get a translator. You get the all important stamp on your migration card in any case. So I got 10 days. Will see what happens when I leave. Process was quick. They open at 9, but you can show up earlier to pick up the form. You need 1 passport copy.
Thanks again for the coordinates.
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Well, we got lost and ended up at the police station. From there, a plain-clothed cop took pity on us, escorted us by car to the registration office, and bumped us to the front of the line. We were done in 15min, but be prepared for big queue.
Be as specific as you can with your dates and travel plans, even if you're not sure. They'll short-change your registration dates if you just appear to be drifting through, which means you'll have to re-register later.
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Walter - i sent some additions to the waypoint list over, did you get my email? Im continuing to add/make edits as i ride along, let me know if there's a different format, or anything else you want me to record differently - best tell me before i do it, as 5 minutes after ive recorded it, ive forgotten all the details!
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Walter - i sent some additions to the waypoint list over, did you get my email? Im continuing to add/make edits as i ride along, let me know if there's a different format, or anything else you want me to record differently - best tell me before i do it, as 5 minutes after ive recorded it, ive forgotten all the details!
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I got them thanks PJ. Much appreciated. I will go thru them and sort them out in a week or two when I have some time. I have looked at them and they are fine. I normally just name them after the town or village they are in, but its easy for me to do that on the maps.
Once sorted I will include them in my next update.
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August Update
Thanks to Seb, Igor, PJ, Steffen, Adam for adding some useful points here. I have distilled them out and have the following list of 80 August updates to the WP file:
As always, the up to date full set is available on the first post on page 1.
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