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Cheers guys, this is useful info

Jamie Z - we hadn't thought much about the types of people we would be meeting along the way, so thanks for this. Coach Surfing hadn't really crossed our minds so thats a good suggestion. We will be bringing a tent with us too, just in case. What are the rules around wild camping? Assuming it is different between the states. Been keeping an eye on the free camping post and there is some ace resources on their too.

Mark - We will have a bit more of a look around on insurances, I think there are a few more now, but people do tend to signpost to Progressive, heard quotes of around $400 a month Did you buy a bike in the states? Easy?
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Jamie Z - we hadn't thought much about the types of people we would be meeting along the way, so thanks for this. Coach Surfing hadn't really crossed our minds so thats a good suggestion. We will be bringing a tent with us too, just in case. What are the rules around wild camping? Assuming it is different between the states. Been keeping an eye on the free camping post and there is some ace resources on their too.
If you haven't already used it, iOverlander has a great database of free places to camp in western Canada and the US. I went through that area this past summer.

Rules are pretty varied. There is a lot of federal land, and generally speaking you can camp anywhere on federal land unless it's specifically forbidden. (This does not include National Parks, which are a completely different thing). The rules are that you have to be a certain distance from the road, can't be near a water source, and things like that, but by and large, you can just look for any open spot and put up your tent. In my experience, nobody will ever bother you. If you're in a somewhat remote area, you'll more than likely pass numerous spots where people have camped before. You'll see the fire rings, and possibly other folks out in their campers and vans.

I don't use campgrounds a whole lot, but there are numerous options for those, as well. In state parks, national forests, and some privately run.
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Check out ‘tigger RTW’ they have a detailed breakdown of finances for travelling through US and Canada.
They camp a lot in national parks, which are cheap.

Have you done any medium/long travelling before? There are some general tactics that can be used in all countries, but don’t want to teach grandma how to suck eggs
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Check out ‘tigger RTW’ they have a detailed breakdown of finances for travelling through US and Canada.
They camp a lot in national parks, which are cheap.
This is a brilliant reference, thank you so much!! I have just started following them both too, what a fantastic couple!

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Have you done any medium/long travelling before? There are some general tactics that can be used in all countries, but don’t want to teach grandma how to suck eggs
I have travelled through Vietnam on a motorbike about 8 years ago, but that was incredibly different, I just bought a bike in Ho Chi Minh and began to ride north, I am not sure I did anything properly. I am also a complete sponge for knowledge at the moment as we are still trip planning, so would value all 'general tactics' very highly.

I wonder if grandma's really are as good as people at sucking eggs
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A few years ago we had a 3 week holiday in the western US. We shipped our bikes over, did 5K miles in 3 weeks, through 6 states and saw loads and had a great time. I don’t think that itinerary would be fun in Europe but the US is empty with very little traffic compared to Europe so 4 months should be ample.
I mention this because of the old adage ’the slower you travel, the cheaper it is’.

I don’t like giving advice because everyone is different but this is what we do on our yearly 4/5 week holidays in Europe.

We camp, although if the weather is horrendous we’ll rent a cabin or caravan for the night - unfortunately the rise of ‘glamping’ has made this option very expensive in Western Europe so a room in a house is often a lot cheaper.
One of the main advantages of camping is that you can buy and cook your own food which saves you a lot of money. So, even if we’re somewhere that a room is the same price as a pitch (eg Balkans) we’ll pitch.

A typical trip looks like this:
We will travel on small roads (motorways/autobahns eat up petrol). We stop and buy sandwich ingredients (not ready made) and fruit around midday then stop at the next attractive place for a picnic. There will be stuff left over, cheese etc for tomorrow. We drink water from our camel backs - I believe these are a must.

We usually stop around 3pm for a coffee - usually in a cafe but occasionally brew our own if we are somewhere remote.
We will start looking for a campsite around 5pm - they’re plentiful in Europe. We prefer council or farm sites, rustic and cheap.
After pitching we will wander into the nearest town and buy ingredients for dinner and a cheap bottle of local wine. We will also have one in a bar.
In the morning we will have porridge and coffee, which we carry with us, then strike camp.

We travel like this for around 3 days, stopping at places that we want to visit then we’ll settle somewhere for 2/3 days - obviously somewhere that warrants a stop. We can greatly reduce our spending when we stop: at least 1 day no petrol, then we’ll use 1 bike for visiting/ local trips. At least 1 day just lying in hammocks.
Then we move on.
For us, things that use up most money with little return is eating and drinking in restaurants and bars. Lunch is cheaper than dinner in restaurants so we very rarely have an evening meal in a restaurant - special place or occasion only. Lunch can be a good, large cheap meal in some countries so we might stop for one occasionally then we just need a snack in the evening.

I think the US and Canada are comparable to Europe so take from this what you will.
We are hoping to ship into the Eastern Seaboard in September and head south.
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