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fly, don't ship

With a motorcycle you are much better off flying it and not getting involved with shipping – especially to Egypt which, as said, gets expensive and slow.
Consider shipping at the end of a big trip when it matters less if it all takes months.
It may cost twice as much to fly but takes days, not weeks or more.

Is there not a ferry from Greece to Israel still?
Then cross at Taba if open, or Jordan then ferry to Sinai.
Or even Saudi to Sudan.
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Then cross at Taba if open, or Jordan then ferry to Sinai.
Has the ban of motorcycle travel through Sinai been lifted?
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I didn't know there was one, tbh.
I recall 4x4s were banned there a few years ago but the south road remained open.
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With a motorcycle you are much better off flying it and not getting involved with shipping – especially to Egypt which, as said, gets expensive and slow.
Consider shipping at the end of a big trip when it matters less if it all takes months.
It may cost twice as much to fly but takes days, not weeks or more.

Is there not a ferry from Greece to Israel still?
Then cross at Taba if open, or Jordan then ferry to Sinai.
Or even Saudi to Sudan.
Grimaldi used to run an accompanied RORO service between Italy and Israel, which stopped in Piraeus, though I am not sure if vehicles were loaded there. That stopped in 2020 I believe, due to covid, and has yet to resume.

Salamis run a similar RORO service but with no passenger berths.

So in short, no Greece to Israel ferries.

About Sinai, I know a couple in a 4x4 who made it across, so perhaps the similar restriction on motorcycles has been lifted.

There are ferries between Saudi and Egypt and Saudi and Sudan which seem to work as normal.

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I remember Salamis now from AMH 8 [p318]: yes you can't board the freight ferry from Lavrio, 2 hrs south of Athens (weekly; 63hrs, was €350 + $100 in Haifa port). So you fly to Israel, though insurance there can be tricky.
From there onwards, as EO says.

I have not been following closely but, assuming a crossing of Africa is being planned, is not the way beyond Sudan blocked right now? More on the
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