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The real reason they don't need the bother of tourism is because, unlike the other places you mention, this huge country has loads of gas, oil and other minerals.
Plus an old and corrupt post-independence regime which is extremely reluctant to loosen the reins.
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Tsa website is not updating the black market rate anymore,
however, there is a specialized website for this:

https://devisesquare.com/#USD
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Well, on the bright side, at least it's not overrun with tourists like Morocco, Tunisia, and Egypt. The benefit of being strict with regards to tourism means that they should have a purer culture as they haven't resorted to exploiting it for monetary gain.
Not only that, but we have different mentalities, different values and a totally different history.

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Algeria is not like most other countries: think Iran, N Korea, parts of Myanmar. Tourists can't roam around unescorted.
Not really, only the southern part is like that and for a good reason.
The problem with foreign tourists is that if they get kidnapped by terrorists Algerians are blamed and if the authorities enforce escort for them Algerians are still blamed ... I guess whatever Algerians do, they will be criticized.
The cost of escorting tourists outweighs any insignificant income they may provide.
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Hi everyone! Very interesting reading the thread about this border crossing. First post for me here so excuse me for maybe asking something stupid but where exactly is this so called "Hassi 75" where you can get the Mauritania visa? Would you happen to have the coordinates Chris? After a month long trip last year in Algeria i might want to attempt this crossing in 2021 if things open up again.

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In RIM no probs: get a visa at Hassi 75.

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'Hassi 75' probably means a well 75km from Tindouf in the middle of nowhere.
It is where you do RIM formalities.
Hope to do it myself next winter.

More here:
https://sahara-overland.com/routes
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https://sahara-overland.com/mauritania/

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Thank you very much for clarifying!
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I am also planning on trying this this year, maybe late summer/early autumn. Mauritania has been open for several months now, but Algeria is still as closed as it was in March.
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Hi everyone! I am pretty new here.
We are also interested in driving with our 4x4 all the way from Algeria to South Africa in 2022. Would love to go Algeria-Mauritania, via Bir Mogrein route. Anyone with his own car interested in crossing the Sahara as a group? We intend to do this in January 2022.
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[QUOTE=Chris Scott;616769]'Hassi 75' probably means a well 75km from Tindouf in the middle of nowhere.
It is where you do RIM formalities.
Hope to do it myself next winter.

hello

this is also valid if you are traveling south to north? This would be the point to make the RIM formalities when leaving Mauritania?
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Yes, I suppose so.
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I just read about the 3 Algerian truckers who were killed – by Moroccan drone strike? – while travelling this route, supposedly from NKT to Ouargla.

https://www.france24.com/en/africa/2...-truck-drivers

https://www.africanews.com/2021/11/0...ruck-drivers//

https://twitter.com/il_kanguru/statu...17759317389312

The fact that they were killed near Bir Lahlou (~50km south of the Berm) while crossing the northern segment of the PFZ – a commonly used short-cut between Ait Ben Tili (RIM) to Tindouf (Alg), underlines that fact that tourists would do better to avoid this PFZ crossing in either direction and take the long way round via the corner of the PFZ, staying in RIM all the way to or from Alg.

This of course supposes that we'll be able to do this route any time soon.
Tensions were on the rise between Alg and Mk even before this event.

https://sahara-overland.com/mauritania/

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So, any recent updates on this border? Is it possible to cross at this moment? We are looking at this route as an alternative way to get from Morocco to Europe (and because we would love doing the route in any case :-) )
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No one has done it South to North yet, but in the Facebook groups there are a few talking about trying in both directions over the next few months.

1 planning a southbound route has just been told his visa is granted.
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Algeria seems to require a PCR test of max 3 days old for entry. This is also the case one the recently reopened land border to Tunisia. This mogjt be logistically impossible for the Tindouf crossing?

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I bet you can get a PCR in Zouerat and imagine you could arrive at Hassi 75 on the 3rd day without rushing too much.
Plus I like to think they would give you some slack if you were a bit late, seeing as it's desert all the way.
Have you taken into account the escort/CdH requirement for DZ, or with your nationality is it possible to get a visa without?
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