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Old 21 Feb 2011
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Well today Qadaffi ordered the air force to bomb the military headquarters around the country and it looks like a full scale civil war.
Two big clans in the east have revolted and proclaimed the "Islamic Emirate of Benghazi"!
Wonder if there is any country in the world willing to receive colonel Q? If not he will likely die on his home turf.
No doubt good comrade Chavez will welcome him...

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I have created a new thread with the material on the evolving Libyan situation. News is sub-sampled given the media and internet blackouts but anyone out in the desert but in touch via satellite phone might want to extend their stay or try out the old Marlboro route to Niger and Chad...... Seems like the borders are abandoned which, for Libya, sounds unbelievable!
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Egypt-Libya border is being kept open by Egypt. The Libyan side is being staffed by 'people's committees' (for those in the UK - sounds like The Big Society).


Egypt reinforces Libya border: News24: Africa: News
Egypt's new military rulers reinforced their border with Libya on Tuesday and opened the frontier round-the-clock to thousands fleeing the turmoil unleashed by the revolt against Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi.


And Benghazi airport runways are destroyed
Libya: Benghazi airport runways destroyed: News24: Africa: News
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There was an Al Jazeera reporter on the Tunisian side of the Ras Ajdir border post this morning, saying that nothing was coming through from Libya, due to everything being stopped on the Libyan side.

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Well Qadaffi takes the cake with that other comrade in North Korea for being the craaaaziest leaders on the planet.
He flew in planeloads of mercenary soldiers from all over Africa since his own troops can't be trusted to fire on their own people.
They are using heavy artillery on civilians, blowing them to pieces - very ugly pics have been posted on various websites and youtube.
He won't get out of this alive. But then - what will happen? Any reports from inside Libya would be interesting.

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Turkish Search and Rescue Team in Benghazi
About 3 hours later, ( 5 pm in istanbul)2 Turkish Speed Passenger Ferries
(Osman Gazi and Orhan Gazi)will be in Benghazi full of first aid materials,food etc. escorted by a warship.Also 10 of our members with 2 ambulances there.
If you need help, get in touch with 112-UMKE team in the port Benghazi.
(UMKE-National Medical Rescue Team) each ferry capasity is 1.200 passengers.
Also 4 Turkish Passenger planes continue getting people out of libya.
If you want to get out libya and need more information, urgently contact our
consulate there. Children first.
Bingazi Başkonsolosluğu: Tel: + 218 91 356 46 19, + 218 61 223 00 03

Türkiye Cumhuriyeti Bingazi Başkonsolosluğu
Our team has emblems on shoulders.You can easily get in touch with them in the port.
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Do you know if any travellers have gone out Lybia since 3 or 4 days?
And how?
I think some tourists are still in the desert there.....

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No doubt good comrade Chavez will welcome him...

Harry's Place � Chavez and Gaddafi: what now?
ach, human memory, how short is it really

United States, Libya Sign Historic Pact on Military Cooperation
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Libya has signed treaties with many countries including EU, China, Russia, USA....after the colonel deposited 1.5B$ in an American bank account as compensation for terror victims of the Panam flight and the disco bombing in Berlinn(both of which he likely was behind personally), he was given a few rewards.
He also negotiated a peace btw Sudan and Chad a few years ago, and has been the good guy on several occasions in the last decade.
And he gave up on nukes.
But still a madman. Now his time seems to be in short supply.
He was supposed to hold a speech today at al-Zawiya but had to call it in by phone.
I read that he has offered $2000 per day to mercenary fighters from Nigeria and Tchad, and they are still arriving by the planeloads.
http://twitter.com/#!/search?q=%23Libya
Noone seems to have even a clue as to what will come after?
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Is he any crazier than Mugabe??

No-one seems bothered about what THAT nutter gets up to!

Oh! That's right! ... There's no oil in Zimbabwe!
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The situation of that man inside his bunker in Tripoli reminds me the last hours of Adolf Hitler inside the Reichstag in flames, 30.05.1945.
Who knows if it'll finish in the same way...
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mercenaries from Mauri too

still, he's a dead man
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The inability to make wise decisions is probably why his people have now finally had enough.

Not stepping down, and the ugly crimes he´s performing against his own people just add to that long list of bad decisions... No way that bastard will ever get away with this.
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These are some thoughts on the changing scene in Libya as it relates to those who want to spend time in the desert in Libya.


For a long time now, Libya has been a Saharan destination which has allowed safe travel. I think it is the only Saharan country (bar Morocco) in which there has been no kidnappings in the last 10 years. I expect that the situation will be different after the dust settles in Libya because:
1) Whatever has kept AQIM from operating there will probably have passed. AQIM is losing no time in wading in. For example see:
Qaeda vows to back Libya uprising: News24: Africa: News
"Nicosia - Al-Qaeda's branch in North Africa has vowed to do everything in its power to help an uprising against Libyan strongman Muammar Gaddafi, according to a statement posted on Thursday by the SITE monitoring group".


2) It has been the case that countries ruled by very effective military/police, once liberalised, become a lot more unsafe (e.g. Russia, South Africa).


So while many will be pleased to see Mr Gaddafi gone, it will almost certainly change things for desert travellers (this post is not meant as a justification of the green flag in any way).
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There has been warnings of the possible takeover of islamists in the popular uprisings in the arab world, but so far they have been either unsuccessful or kept a low profile.

In the long run, introduction of democracy is the best cure against extremism, military pressure is not. But short term there will be turmoil as the influence of Qadaffi and his money suddenly disappears. He has been supporting dictators like Mugabe and also Aziz in Mauritania.

The Libyan islamists were almost wiped out in prison massacres by Qadaffi in 1996.
In Libya's Escalating Chaos, an Opening for al-Qaeda?
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