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Most of the reports seem to be saying that the group is close to the triple point, on the south side of the mountain in Sudan. But if I were a bandit, I'd have taken the group at least 100 km south in the midst of northern Sudan. Don't you think staying near Jebel Uweinat is unlikely as it is too exposed and too close to Egypt and Libya?
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Most of the reports seem to be saying that the group is close to the triple point, on the south side of the mountain in Sudan. But if I were a bandit, I'd have taken the group at least 100 km south in the midst of northern Sudan. Don't you think staying near Jebel Uweinat is unlikely as it is too exposed and too close to Egypt and Libya?
I agree, however you need to have a water source to sustain 20+ people, so Karkur Murr sounds plausible. It was only reported that the abductors were 4 or 5, but the 'support team' could be much larger. However this is all speculation, there could be deliberate misreports all over the press statements.
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I just had a word with my source in EG. Apparently Karkur Murr was the place where these guys were last seen. The word is out there's no immediate ban expected on travel to the area, just a strong warning to avoid Karkur Talh and the border area close to Al Uweinat.
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Reuters - Egypt is in direct talks with kidnappers - source

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Hi all, fyi I just removed the parallel thread understandably complaining about this Gilf thread being moved as it has now been sorted.

As with 'Tunisia' earlier this year I was not asked or informed, even though I moderate this forum hourly whenever a computer is at hand. Sahara gets a lot more traffic than other HU forums.

I have explained to Grant that Gilf is hundreds of miles from any overland route and so on HU is only of interest to Saharans.

I hope these guys, let alone the long forgoten Austrians, get released soon.

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Thanks Chris!

I have not received any credible news over the past day, I consder most of the stuff appearing on the news to be pure speculation to hide the fact that nothing is known. Probably we are not going to hear much until the situation is resolved one way or another.

Will keep posting any reliable looking news.
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and now that the group is in Libya....
Hostages moved to Libya: Africa: News: News24

Interestingly the Austrians taken in Tunisia, were moved through Algeria to Mal and some reports say they are shifted across the boder to Niger from time to time. If all these reports are true, then the bandits will know that getting a coordinated response from 2 or 3 countries is much more difficult - something which makes resuce of the kidnapped more difficult and therefore keeps the bandits in control. In this sense the triple point (Egypt, Libya, Sudan) lends itself to the tactic.
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