Go Back   Horizons Unlimited - The HUBB > Equipment, Travel > Navigation - Maps, Compass, GPS
Navigation - Maps, Compass, GPS How to find your way - traditional map, compass and road signs, or GPS and more
Photo by George Guille, It's going to be a long 300km... Bolivian Amazon

I haven't been everywhere...
but it's on my list!


Photo by George Guille
It's going to be a long 300km...
Bolivian Amazon




Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 27 Dec 2014
Registered Users
New on the HUBB
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 3
Smile which TRUE GPS for remote areas without phone signal

I am after a true GPS, one that works directly from Satellites ie NOT relying on mobile phone coverage, and I get the impression most adverts blurr the difference and sales kids just want to make a sale.
I would like coverage off road on tracks in the Sahara and the remote Romanian mountains as well as normal road stuff.

Does anyone have any suggestions for a GPS to go anywhere?
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 27 Dec 2014
Registered Users
New on the HUBB
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Ireland
Posts: 8
Garmin Montana would not be a bad choice

Garmin | Montana
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 27 Dec 2014
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 141
You can buy a Garmin Nuvi 40 for less the $100.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 27 Dec 2014
Gold Member
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Toronto, Canada
Posts: 2,125
Quote:
Originally Posted by Geoff with XT and Easel View Post
I am after a true GPS, one that works directly from Satellites ie NOT relying on mobile phone coverage...
Just about any stand-alone GPS device works by using satellite signals only.

Mobile phones (smartphones, etc.) are the devices that use augmentation from the cell phone network to assist in rapidly determining a position. The GPS device within these smartphones will determine position without assistance from the cell network, but it will take a bit longer to do so.

I think you have a misunderstanding about the scope of cellular network augmentation of GPS... that technology is almost exclusively (like, 99.9%) used by smartphones. I don't know of a single stand-alone GPS navigator that uses cell network augmentation to assist in determining position.

Michael
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 28 Dec 2014
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Oxford UK
Posts: 2,104
Mobile phones may use the phone network to speed up positioning and increase accuracy but it's the gps signal that does the heavy lifting. The iPad I'm typing this on doesn't even have a SIM card and works very well as a sat-nav. There's loads of low cost nav apps that use osm mapping or will just give you lat-lon /speed / heading if that's what you're after.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 29 Dec 2014
Registered Users
New on the HUBB
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 3
Thanks, you're right I do have little experience with gps having only borrowed gps units twice, and having problems both times. All the above comments are helpful, and I will probably look to buy a Garmin of some description soon, ideally one that will be helpful off-road as well as on-road.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 29 Dec 2014
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: UK
Posts: 4,343
Quote:
Originally Posted by Geoff with XT and Easel View Post
Thanks, you're right I do have little experience with gps having only borrowed gps units twice, and having problems both times. All the above comments are helpful, and I will probably look to buy a Garmin of some description soon, ideally one that will be helpful off-road as well as on-road.
Do your research first.
In here, and read elsewhere (the HUBB is Garmin-centric), at least until you are comfortable with what people are talking about!
__________________
Dave

Last edited by Walkabout; 19 Jan 2015 at 10:30.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 29 Dec 2014
Redboots's Avatar
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: On the border - NE FR
Posts: 865
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaws100 View Post
Garmin Montana would not be a bad choice

Garmin | Montana
+1
Just the base model and load it with free maps - OSM.

J
__________________
Nostradamus Ate My Hamster
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 29 Dec 2014
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 828
Use your iPad, iPhone...

That devices are exactly enough, lead us well through, laos, our transafrica, will lead me soon through the panamericana.



4x4tripping: Offroad Navigation mit MotionX HD (iPad)

4x4tripping: Road Navigation with the MotionX HD (iPad)

Surfy
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 29 Dec 2014
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 679
which TRUE GPS for remote areas without phone signal

I bought a garnin eTrex 20 for 200 USD and loaded on free maps. Worth every cent - wouldn't fancy of taking iPad or iPhone into altiplano, amazon etc they're too delicate and are too attractive to thieves. The eTrex I have found to be very reliable and is well built for its purpose and the fact it looks like a mobile from the 1990's is a positive! Screen is a big small but overall I've found it perfect for my needs. Would get the Montana if I was flush of course. iPad or Samsung etc would make a great addition for my navigation but wouldn't be without proper dedicated outdoor GPS unit.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 13 Jan 2015
Registered Users
HUBB regular
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 27
If you have an android smart phone look at navigator. It uses free downloadable offline maps and is very good.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 19 Jan 2015
Registered Users
HUBB regular
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: British Columbia, Canada
Posts: 30
Three Offline GPS apps I used extensively on my iPhone are:

  • GPSKit
  • MotionX
  • Galileo

The first two have more options to work with, and signal acquisition and performance is very good, however they are both picture based maps - since you have to download the maps of where you are going to be prior to your trip, the phone works 100% independently of a cell network - it simply uses the GPS of the phone.

The last one Galileo is I find the best if you are traveling long distances as you can download your maps as Vector Maps for a country and it takes very little mb of space on your phone and allows you to zoom down to 10m, plus it allows unlimited tracks and waypoints and works very well.

Good Luck, let us know what you decide to use..

Cheers
__________________
Young riders pick a destination and go... Old riders pick a direction and go...
Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
gps, mountains, remote, sahara


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 Registered Users and/or Members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Smart Phone VS Garmin et al as a GPS tool seouljoe Navigation - Maps, Compass, GPS 462 5 Apr 2022 21:54
Is my GPS draining my battery? Lonesome George Navigation - Maps, Compass, GPS 7 24 Aug 2013 00:22
Ride back from Central America Tom Udulutch Ride Tales 0 5 Feb 2013 15:16
Satelite phone, Thuraya SG-2520 MUST GO!!!! biciclown TRAVEL Equipment for Sale / Wanted 0 10 Nov 2012 16:24

 
 

Announcements

Thinking about traveling? Not sure about the whole thing? Watch the HU Achievable Dream Video Trailers and then get ALL the information you need to get inspired and learn how to travel anywhere in the world!

Have YOU ever wondered who has ridden around the world? We did too - and now here's the list of Circumnavigators!
Check it out now
, and add your information if we didn't find you.

Next HU Eventscalendar

HU Event and other updates on the HUBB Forum "Traveller's Advisories" thread.
ALL Dates subject to change.

2024:

Add yourself to the Updates List for each event!

Questions about an event? Ask here

HUBBUK: info

See all event details

 
World's most listened to Adventure Motorbike Show!
Check the RAW segments; Grant, your HU host is on every month!
Episodes below to listen to while you, err, pretend to do something or other...

2020 Edition of Chris Scott's Adventure Motorcycling Handbook.

2020 Edition of Chris Scott's Adventure Motorcycling Handbook.

"Ultimate global guide for red-blooded bikers planning overseas exploration. Covers choice & preparation of best bike, shipping overseas, baggage design, riding techniques, travel health, visas, documentation, safety and useful addresses." Recommended. (Grant)



Ripcord Rescue Travel Insurance.

Ripcord Rescue Travel Insurance™ combines into a single integrated program the best evacuation and rescue with the premier travel insurance coverages designed for adventurers.

Led by special operations veterans, Stanford Medicine affiliated physicians, paramedics and other travel experts, Ripcord is perfect for adventure seekers, climbers, skiers, sports enthusiasts, hunters, international travelers, humanitarian efforts, expeditions and more.

Ripcord travel protection is now available for ALL nationalities, and travel is covered on motorcycles of all sizes!


 

What others say about HU...

"This site is the BIBLE for international bike travelers." Greg, Australia

"Thank you! The web site, The travels, The insight, The inspiration, Everything, just thanks." Colin, UK

"My friend and I are planning a trip from Singapore to England... We found (the HU) site invaluable as an aid to planning and have based a lot of our purchases (bikes, riding gear, etc.) on what we have learned from this site." Phil, Australia

"I for one always had an adventurous spirit, but you and Susan lit the fire for my trip and I'll be forever grateful for what you two do to inspire others to just do it." Brent, USA

"Your website is a mecca of valuable information and the (video) series is informative, entertaining, and inspiring!" Jennifer, Canada

"Your worldwide organisation and events are the Go To places to for all serious touring and aspiring touring bikers." Trevor, South Africa

"This is the answer to all my questions." Haydn, Australia

"Keep going the excellent work you are doing for Horizons Unlimited - I love it!" Thomas, Germany

Lots more comments here!



Five books by Graham Field!

Diaries of a compulsive traveller
by Graham Field
Book, eBook, Audiobook

"A compelling, honest, inspiring and entertaining writing style with a built-in feel-good factor" Get them NOW from the authors' website and Amazon.com, Amazon.ca, Amazon.co.uk.



Back Road Map Books and Backroad GPS Maps for all of Canada - a must have!

New to Horizons Unlimited?

New to motorcycle travelling? New to the HU site? Confused? Too many options? It's really very simple - just 4 easy steps!

Horizons Unlimited was founded in 1997 by Grant and Susan Johnson following their journey around the world on a BMW R80G/S.

Susan and Grant Johnson Read more about Grant & Susan's story

Membership - help keep us going!

Horizons Unlimited is not a big multi-national company, just two people who love motorcycle travel and have grown what started as a hobby in 1997 into a full time job (usually 8-10 hours per day and 7 days a week) and a labour of love. To keep it going and a roof over our heads, we run events all over the world with the help of volunteers; we sell inspirational and informative DVDs; we have a few selected advertisers; and we make a small amount from memberships.

You don't have to be a Member to come to an HU meeting, access the website, or ask questions on the HUBB. What you get for your membership contribution is our sincere gratitude, good karma and knowing that you're helping to keep the motorcycle travel dream alive. Contributing Members and Gold Members do get additional features on the HUBB. Here's a list of all the Member benefits on the HUBB.




All times are GMT +1. The time now is 16:59.