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My 2 pence if I may. There are many choices out there including second hand units but at a risk-
For a modern unit which should serve you a long long time, have a look at Garmin's Etrex 10- Part Number: 010-00970-00 specs here
A nice simple unit, rugged, waterproof, with twin gps and glonass receiver.
It does not have micro sd card facility, nor maps aside (from a pretty useless basemap), nor any internal memory. For £99 it is a good deal remembering that it very limited in its capability- Only you can decide if these are enough.
But for the little extra- I'd chose the Etrex 20- specs here as it offers micro sd capability so you could load Olaf's free Morocco map on there ( ands others like OSM etc) and 1.7GB internal storage capabilitity for maps/waypoints etc.
Don't underestimate the usefulness of some useable memory and ability to add maps and other data files.
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Thanks for all of your advice.
Funnily enough after a day on the roof, the Magellen did manage to get a fix and was tracking 5 satelites. I thought I was in there, but then remembered why I sentenced it to life in the drawn after waiting 10 minutes to get a lock the next time I switched it on.
given the GPS on my smart phone will lock on to a good 14 satelites in less than an minute. I think the old fellow can go back in his draw.
The only thing about using the smarth phone gps is that I don't want the phone out and about getting rattled to death.
I am kind of half sold on Bertrands thoughts about getting something to download maps onto but I still feel it is a little cheating.
Over may years I have learnt to read maps, contours, the sun/light/my watch and part of the journey to me is the map, but I may just have a gps running along in the background. As first said.... Old-ish school navigation!!! 
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Go for it. There is to me at least a real interest and satisfaction in getting across a landscape using "natural" things like the sun and the earths magnetism. When my skills are lacking the GPS avoids pain. In a city centre the phone let's you get to the bar in time.
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There is to me at least a real interest and satisfaction in getting across a landscape using "natural" things like the sun and the earths magnetism.
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Hi Andy:
Yeah, I agree with you about that satisfaction. My experience has been that the nice warm glow of accomplishment lasts until about 30 seconds after I realize I am lost.  At that point, I revert to technology.
(just kidding you)
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All loaded up now!
Well, I bought myself a cheap Garmin nuvi 250 for £25 and after a lot of internet learning I have got the OSM Morocco map and the Olaf map loaded on card and internal memory so I can switch between the two.
I've got the Garmin Base camp on my computer and am going to start planning a few routes. I see OSM is great for towns and Olaf is great for the trails but I seem to remember that someone was talking about getting fuel points and accomadation on Olaf's map.
Is that an add on or am I missing something.
I can't beleive how far I have got over the past few weeks thanks to everyones help. I can't say I am proficient, but I'm no longer terrified by Sat Navs!
I keep telling myslef that this is only for back up, but I have soon realsied it is going to take a lot of guess work out of the journey and hopefuly prevent me from a brain overheat whilst working out the pistes. I really do the use of it now.
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... I have soon realised it is going to take a lot of guess work out of the journey and hopefully prevent me from a brain overheat whilst working out the pistes.
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Agreed. When all is said and done, GPS navigators are basically 'stress relievers'. We can certainly live without them (the whole world did until about the late 1990s), but life is easier with them.
Enjoy Morocco!
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We can certainly live without them
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Well, I bought myself a cheap Garmin nuvi 250 for £25 and after a lot of internet learning I have got the OSM Morocco map and the Olaf map loaded on card and internal memory so I can switch between the two.
I've got the Garmin Base camp on my computer and am going to start planning a few routes.
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I'll be interested to read how you get on with it all -- all in due course.
I've been along this road, figuratively speaking, with an old Nuvi 205W.
Quite a few people prefer mapsource to basecamp, even though the latter is newer.
There are lots of posts about such things elsewhere in here.
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I'll be interested to read how you get on with it all -- all in due course.
I've been along this road, figuratively speaking, with an old Nuvi 205W.
Quite a few people prefer mapsource to basecamp, even though the latter is newer.
There are lots of posts about such things elsewhere in here.
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It doesn't look like you can get mapsource any more from garmin and even if you can, I've just spent 2 hours reading the insturctions for basecamp, so basecamp it is!!! I can allow computer things only so much of my time
It seem useful enough and will do the job. I really don't want to be tied to itienry or the route, and I am concerned that I will tie myself to a route I am plotting now which I know is so wrong. I am going to need a little more time to work out how to change tracks on the hoof.
20 years ago I spent 3 months going coast to coast and back in N America taking what looked like the most interesting road at many a junction. It was only at night I would get out the road atlas to get going in the right direction.
Now I have time constraints, so I need a bit of a better idea of where I am and how I can get back. So htere is another challenge, but so far so good, we're getting there on my miserley budget.
I'm hoping Grant will give me space to write a blog when I go in April next year. Not that I am going anywhere where no-one else has ever gone but because I like to write about travelling and things just seem to happen to me. my last blog to Sarajevo was really enjoyable to write and was full of 'events'!
I'll keep you informed on the joys of the nuvi 250!
go easy dudes

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Ahem....cough cough......
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Originally Posted by Bertrand
My 2 pence if I may. There are many choices out there including second hand units but at a risk-
For a modern unit which should serve you a long long time, have a look at Garmin's Etrex 10- Part Number: 010-00970-00 specs here
A nice simple unit, rugged, waterproof, with twin gps and glonass receiver.
It does not have micro sd card facility, nor maps aside (from a pretty useless basemap), nor any internal memory. For £99 it is a good deal remembering that it very limited in its capability- Only you can decide if these are enough.
But for the little extra- I'd chose the Etrex 20- specs here as it offers micro sd capability so you could load Olaf's free Morocco map on there ( ands others like OSM etc) and 1.7GB internal storage capabilitity for maps/waypoints etc.
Don't underestimate the usefulness of some useable memory and ability to add maps and other data files.
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Yeah, in many ways you are right. For me it would be the best thing for just bumping down the pistes because it won't try to adopt motorcyclistic assumptions as to where I want to go (good new word there).
I kind of got attracted to the motoring sat navs because it would be very useful in towns and the 3d view is very useful here. Also for when I get home and need the odd postcode directions.
So very much not sure what to do now. I may in the end, just forget trying to put routes on my current sat nav and just use it to get Long Lat readings going off the good old map and compass. At least I can use it when not on the piste.
It's been an education! Thanks all for your help
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just use it to get Long Lat readings going off the good old map and compass.
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Much as I have tried to "reform" myself and adopt greater use of GPS tools, I have found that I can't resist studying a map while lying about in a tent or taking a few  s with others.
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