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Well hullo - it's a Landrover Defender we're talking about here, not an Audi A8. A car that can be fixed with a hammer in the field, not one that has to be hooked up to a computer in a laboratory by someone in a white coat just to change a headlight bulb. Am sure a few uneven / wider than average panel gaps wont matter.
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Utter rubbish.
the modern defender is full of electronics, and electronics and landrover are not too words that sit too well together. And you do need a computer to fix many of the problems on the newer defenders, and this proposed one will be even worse.
whilst not defenders my mums TD5 disco sat uselessley in the drive because some muppet routed the electrics through the highly noxious environment of the rocker box, and as you mention headlights, what about the brand new range rover on the landrover stand at a show that wouldn't start because water in the headlight caused a short which shut down the computer. took the land rover technician 45 minutes with his computer to solve that one. And what will you do when the immobiliser on your defender fails, as happened to some poor chap in China in his rangie who then had to trailer it several thousand miles to a dealer to get it fixed.
Thats why I run an old truck with no electronics. I wouldn't touch any newer 4x4 for an expedition, least of all a defender, and thats from someone who has owned several landrovers, has the T shirt and the hat!!
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Your not allowed to carry soldiers in the backs of landrovers anymore under most cicumstances (war fighting excepted). the military have also stated that they want a common manufacturer for all it's weights of GP vehicles. to my knowledge only Ford and Mercedes (AKA unimog) can do that.
The snatch was fit for purpose. the problem was some idiot then put it into a role it was never designed for in an environment it wasn't designed for, because some other idiot hadn't spotted what everyone else had, that the most likely theatre of war for the last 30 years has ben the desert.
The 101 ambie was a pretty good tool. I took one round the hill rally course for several years doing med cover. I also took a wolf version and it was dire, much prefered the 101. the ambie body is just too heavy for the landrover. The Wolf ambie was also never fit for purpose as delivered because the original design brief was wrong. In reality it probably still isn't.
IMHO unimog is they way to go for soft skinned ambies, for armoured, well, how about one like the danish army have (see below)!!
The hummers are pretty rubbish IMHO. they were built by comittee and have a lot of compromises. they are too large and unweildy and I have seen them stuck in places than landies sail through. the ambulance versions developed severe stress cracks around their bodywork.
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Well hullo - it's a Landrover Defender we're talking about here, not an Audi A8. A car that can be fixed with a hammer in the field, not one that has to be hooked up to a computer in a laboratory by someone in a white coat just to change a headlight bulb. Am sure a few uneven / wider than average panel gaps wont matter.
Utter rubbish.
the modern defender is full of electronics, and electronics and landrover are not too words that sit too well together. And you do need a computer to fix many of the problems on the newer defenders, and this proposed one will be even worse.
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Moggy - oh my goodness me. I hope I didn't disturb your sleep last night
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Seriously though - I agree 100% re electronics - a bloody nuisance. I was referring to the mechanical side of things.
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 great cartoon, spookilly close to the truth. still haven't found that camera in my office!!
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