Thank for all the feedback! Very informative.

Ok so I'm thinking a 100 series amazon or 3rd gen hilux surf!

I was hoping for a manual gearbox(which doesn't seem possible for the import hilux surfs in the UK) mainly because i have heard they are easier to fix for local mechanics if i get problems. So was wondering if there were any side effects of autos. Despite my inherent desire to drive manual.

Many thanks
Dan

The main downside with autos is you cant tow start . The other thing is in hard work situations (loaded in soft sand ) they generate a lot of heat which is not good for longevity. Thats why autos usually have a overheat warning light , or go into limp mode, when overheating . Re not standard equipment rear diff lock , there are aftermarket options available, which work which is not always the case with high mileage lim slips HTSH.

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Pretty much opposite ends of the spectrum.

4,2 L 100 series or a 3,0 L Surf?

Vette

Failing the above, you could always go for this Chinese copy surf



God knows what the quality is like though!

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I have a Gen3 Surf, 3L diesel auto, and it's a fantastic car, the best I have ever owned. It's the SSR-X model which has push button selectable 4WD, diff locks and is happy in full time 4WD, but why would you when you can hit the button at any speed under 100kmph? That way you have less steering load, use less fuel and have longer tyre life in 2WD.

Regards the auto v manual debate, I tow heavy loads often, over the mountain passes of the Southern Alps in New Zealand, and I have seen the over-temp light come on twice on very hot days on the same long 12% grade. This is with 2 tonne behind and quite a load aboard. I have an after-market transmission cooler fitted which is a good idea and only cost about UKpounds180 fitted here. Auto is also much better in rough going as it's much easier to control the speed when you are going slow, plus it doesn't spin the wheels as easily in slippery going. You are less likely to get stuck. I'd never have another manual 4WD and I do a lot of really rough roads, river crossings and bush tracks.

My Surf has done 240,000km with zero engine work, zero transmission work, new shocks and springs in the back only, and everything in the car still works.

From 1998 on, they have the inter-cooled motor, which gives a nice improvement in power and fuel economy. Certainly much better fuel economy than you would ever get from a 'Cruiser.

Cheers bloke

Nigel in NZ

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