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LandCriser 100 series for expedition use

Hi,
anyone have any saying on prepparing a 100 series? Are they to complicated, erg electonics and so on..??

All tips and hints wanted!

Is it possible to change the electonic suspension wite OME or something similar?

Cost?

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Jean Visser, a member here (Ons4) just completed an around Africa trip in a 100 with a trailer....

Personally I am a fan of the 80 series 4.2 Diesel manual (No turbo) because very little can go wrong with them. They are hard to find in good condition though.

I see you asked questions about the 80 series from JamieT. I am in process of kitting out an 80 and know how much the extras cost in South Africa, which is a lot cheaper than Europe... I think his price is fair.
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anyone have any saying on prepparing a 100 series? Are they to complicated, erg electonics and so on..??
Yes, they do have more electronics than the 80 series and other 4x4s, but they ARE Toyota electronics which are generally considered to be pretty reliable.

They are used extensively in Aus and the US for overlanding with very few if any problems arising from the electronics so generally not worth worrying about.

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All tips and hints wanted!

Is it possible to change the electonic suspension wite OME or something similar?
Yes you can - you can dump the Active height suspension and install 3rd party torsion bars, springs, shocks, etc, costs range from around £700 for basic suspension to around £1500 for a top of the range setup.

Having said that I know in Aus they use the AHC suspension for overlanding style trips - as long as it is setup properlly for the loads and well maintained it can be reliable.

Overall I am seeing an increasing number of 100s through the workshops for preparation for basic trips into N. Africa as well as round the world trips.

The 100s are bigger inside than the 80s and generally a lot more comfortable to drive.
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Jean Visser, a member here (Ons4) just completed an around Africa trip in a 100 with a trailer....

I know Jean but don't forget that the 100 series GX in South Africa is similar to a HZJ105 in europe which has 1HZ engine, and rigid front axle. The European 100 series has independent front wheel suspension and far more electronics on the engine !

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100 series

you can actually get an 80 or 100 series GX equivalent with the live front axle, front diffs and the 1hz engine. you can also get a GXL which has the turbo engine, but with a manual transmission and the live front axle.

105 (100 gx) is a GREAT car for overlanding through africa. we are busy on a trip now with two of them up to Uganda.
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HI Boysey,
are you selling this cars after you have done your trip..?

Any one knowing any one selling a 100?

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Hi Knut,

You should be able to pick up a 105 second hand in Europe, but it won't be cheap.

The 105 is an ideal truck for overlanding, if a little underpowered, but for us in the UK it is getting to the point that you can pick up a straight 100 series for around £7-8k (GBP) with the European prices being almost double that.
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Lifting and making other modifications??

Hi, how is it to lift the 100 series about 2" and make other modifications for an around the world trip?

I'will go in remote areas and need a dependant car, it will be a 100 series with electonic air suspension and a modern engine, not the 105 series as i cant find any..

any help, hints and tips are appreciated, also were I can get work done, prefferably in Norway, Sweden, maninland Europe. If not I have to go to England...

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Hi Knut

look a the reply from Julian above and you will see the link to Overland Cruisers.

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Hi, how is it to lift the 100 series about 2" and make other modifications for an around the world trip?

I'will go in remote areas and need a dependant car, it will be a 100 series with electonic air suspension and a modern engine, not the 105 series as i cant find any..
The Active Height system on the 100s can be very good, but in Europe they suffer a lot from corrosion from the salt on the roads and poor servicing and therefore not really recommended to keep it on the car if you plan any major overlanding.

We usually strip it all off the car and then fit upgraded torsion bars at the front, upgraded springs at the back and then upgraded shocks all round - this will give you your 2" lift with a reliable suspension system.

Depending on the spring/shock combo you fit it would be recommended to fit a diff drop kit to reduce the angles of the CVs and you will also need to get the ARB strengthening plates for where the torsion bars attach to the lower wish bones.

The key thing with the front suspension is to adjust the torsion bars is to adjust them up to give you roughly the right height, but also keep an eye on the amount of droop you get on the suspension so that you are getting the full traqvel on the shocks.

If you are getting an early (pre Aug '02) 100 you should also consider fitting an ARB air locker into the front diff to strenghthen it because they do have a habit of imploding if you atart spinning wheels in the air and then making sudden contact with the ground.
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Hi Julian, and thanks for the info. What kind of cost are we talking about doing what your write here??

And most imoportant, is the 100 suitable for extrem overlanding or should i opt for the 80 series, sounds like its less hassle with the 80 and more reliable??????

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