Lets see some pictures of failed frames
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Originally Posted by backofbeyond
Loaded up for solo overlanding it's ok (ish) I didn't do much to the subframe other than redo the welds at the end where the mudguard mounts but I did weld in some extra brackets at the bottom so I could triangulate the pannier frames. It hasn't broken so far but it does flex a lot side to side and I've never really been comfortable with it.
The biggest problem with the 600 is the kickstart. I've broken a couple but it's really the whole palaver of getting the thing started. You can't just kick and hope like you can with a two stroke. It requires a ritual that you have to go through and a kind of whole body commitment that just becomes too much after a time. The 400 has to be better in this respect. On the last UK - Gambia trip I got to the point where I'd leave it idle rather than have to go through the starting ritual and when I really had to turn it off (borders / hotels etc) I'd pay the (inevitable) bunch of kids 20p to push start me.
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I tried a XR400 and the subframe was visibly bent to one side and I found also that the welding on the metalpiece that connetcs the two sides, was cracked. The welding looked awfull, not even a 1. year welder apprentice would weld like that and leave all the spatter and just paint over it.
It definately needs some triangular members welded in horisontally.
I'm surprised by the kickstart problems. The owner of the 400, didn't really kick it, he just pumped it 2-3 times and it started. After a short ride it was turned off and, 20 min later I started it, on the second kick even though I think its normally the worst conditions when you don't know if its hot or cold. And its on the standard carburator.
This was my first kickstart of a single, since I started a BSA 500, many years ago.
Doesn't the 600 have an automatic decompressor, like the 400 ?
If this is unique, maybe I should rush and buy that400 ;o)
I would still like to see pictures of broken subframes. With all the talk about them, there must be some pictures somewhere.
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Poul
May you enjoy peace and good health !
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