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Originally Posted by colebatch
Well I assume you mean the softness of the suspension with one rider and no luggage ... as the bike was designed to be ridden?
As soon as you put another rider on and luggage the suspension becomes too soft for that weight. The suspension is not the same firmness regardless of the weight on it. Its a fixed level of resistance, designed to offer a certain level of firmness with a certain amount of weight on the bike. If you change the amount of weight on the bike, like put luggage and an extra person on it, suddenly you can push the suspension down with one finger - i.e. its NOT the same softness as it SHOULD be, because the spring is now not able to offer enough resistance for the amount of weight it is opposing - meaning it (a) now sits too low and (b) does NOT offer the designed softness of suspension - now its way too soft and can bottom out, with potentially very bad consequences.
If you change the weight load on the bike significantly, then you have to be changing the suspension to suit it. At a very basic level: a different shock will impact on how the suspension moves. A different spring will affect how high the bike sits.
That means primarily, a new stiffer rear spring to counter the extra weight. That should also make the bike sit at the same height when loaded up with luggage and extra rider, as your original spring did with just you on it. A rear spring should only cost you about 120 EUR and be fitted in an hour or so. Places like Hyperpro have a wide variety of springs for all variations of rider weights , rider+luggage, rider+passenger+luggage etc and fit them for free.
If you want to get more complicated, most suspension shops can lengthen your suspension, put in a taller spring and shock, to make the bike sit higher. But that will be a fair bit more expensive and time consuming.
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Thank you very much for your explanation, you were very clear.
Well, let me tell you my reality now. I toke my Transalp to a garage and the mechanic compressed my spring to maximum, bike suspension got much stiffer (which doesn't bother me at all, as I'm very used to super sport bikes as R6 and FZ1) but it doesn't sags so much as before, my ground clearence got much higher, even loaded with second passenger, which I really liked. It was a good temporary solution.
After 5k miles, bike is now with 35800K miles (never had fork or rear shock serviced), my forks needs service, they are not leaking, but they are too soft, every break, the bike swings up and down, oil must to be old and needs replacement. So, I bought a par of Wilbers Progressive Fork springs for £74 ( Wilbers Promoto Progressive Fork Springs HONDA 650-1000cc), a Honda Oil/Dust Seal Kit and will do the forks service next week and soon as the springs arrive. I believe Wilbers Progressive Fork springs will make my front suspension behave better, specially with two up + luggage. I read just good feedbacks from people who upgraded the stock fork springs for the Wilbers ones. So, hopefully it will work very well.
Regarding my rear shocks, I thought about servicing the stock one and replace the stock spring for a Hyperpro one, but I am not sure it will worth it, a completely new Hyperpro shock is around £360 pounds on ebay. I know that the right thing to do, would be getting a full adjustable shocks but I don't have the budget for it.
My question is exactly that, should I service my stock honda shocks and replace the spring for a hyperpro one? it will work?! Or should I get a totally new hyper pro shock? What do you reckon? I can not spend much...
Cheers,
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