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The lakes

All these lakes are very nice to ride around
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Came back from the trip last night (bike's back some time next week). Will try to do a ride report, but here's a quick review:

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they say Pag Island in Croatia should be a nice place.
It's definitely an interesting place - a good detour between Zadar and Plitvice. While the rest of Croatia in those parts is pretty green, Pag is entirely a moonscape, almost entirely devoid of vegetation, just sun-bleached rocks. Can be windy. But nice roads, especially north of the main town and towards the ferry terminal.

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5 years ago I went to Postojna cave and Predjama castle in Slovenia, very touristic but nice if that are sites who interrest you.
Postojna cave was an absolute highlight.

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If you go down to Montenegro then Kotor and Budva are main tourist atractions but i would say the Kotor to Cetinje mountain road is a nice drive and there is Lovcen NP what can be interesting.
Indeed, did the loop - up from Kotor via the Serpentine, up towards Lovcen NP and the hilltop memorial to the old prince who unified Montenegro, down to the old capital Cetinje that was very nice to walk around, and down towards Budva, and back to my guesthouse near Kotor. Very nice loop that was doable in half a day after seeing Kotor old town itself.
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I highly recommend checking out Bosnia and Sarajevo; I would say that Bosnia has been the most "pleasant surprise country" during all of my travels. Very beautiful countryside, and Sarajevo is a really cool city.
I didn't make it all the way to Sarajevo, but did go to Mostar, and I agree - BiH was a very pleasant surprise. The smaller roads are great, Mostar itself is amazing (make sure you go on the Sheva walking tour!), I also saw Vjetrenica cave and Kravnica waterfall.

The part of BiH I saw was definitely much cheaper than Croatia and much nicer than the non-cruiseshipy bits of Montenegro. The country still has a lot of problems that affect its residents, but for visitors, it's great. Honestly, the only downside is that it's not in the EU roam-like-home scheme yet, so I needed a tourist sim.
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I visited Croatia in 2019, and wasn't sure about the legalities of visiting Zeljava. So I located the local police station and emailed them to ask if I could get a permit or something to visit. They politely replied that no, it was off limits and dangerous, so I went anyway. Awesome place and I note they have cleared the vegetation away from the old DC3 to make it better for tourist photos!
In practice, the airbase has an active visible presence by both the Croatian police and their border guard... but they absolutely could not give less of a damn about tourists - they're only there because it's right on the BiH border and they're worried about illegal crossings into the Schengen area. The DC-3 is not just cleared of vegetation, but there's now a summer cafe set up next to it.


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Italy I'm afraid I wasn't too impressed with. Everyone drives either like a granny or like a total idiot, and they put speed cameras everywhere.
I respected the speed camera warnings, but once you start paying a bit of attention, you'll realize they put speed camera boxes everywhere. Almost all of them are empty and just have stickers to look like lenses!
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Northeast Italy and no one mentions the Dolomites mountains.
Am I missing something ? I thought the Dolomites where a favorite among motor riders like the other mountain areas in the Alps.
I ended up skipping Trieste and instead doing Dolomites - up the Soca river valley in Slovenia, across the Vrsic Pass to Kranjska Gora, then over towards Stelvio pass.
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