Hey Guys,

I've just arrived in the Netherlands and I will be living here for the next 7 months. I'm looking for a bike to use for travels while I'm here and I've found a Yamaha TDM registered in Ireland.

What are the rules for using an Irish registered bike in the Netherlands? Am I able to use it here for 7 months or will I have to transfer the registration over to Dutch Road Authorities? If I have to transfer it over, how much would the bpm be for a 1500 euro bike?

Thanks in advance,

Mihir

if you ask residence in NL you'll have to register and pay tax. for 7 months i wouldn'd do it, even as a resident.
https://www.rdw.nl/englishinformatio...s/default.aspx

Can I suggest you do some gov web search or speak to the local office to ask as the penalties for operating an illegal vehicle on the roads in Europe can be quite tough. I don't know about Holland but here in the UK the vehicle will be confiscated on the spot and not returned to you until its legal and the fees mount by day, plus the hefty fines. If the local cops keep seeing your bike, foreign bikes are easy to spot, they will know you are not just visiting!!

Ditto on that.

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3 answers but no an answer to the TS' question.

The EU principe is simple, registered in any EU country means you can register in any other EU country. No technical approval is needed for this, just an identification.

GRTZ,

JP

Yeah I've emailed the RDW but I'm still waiting for a response. There's no RDW here in Tilburg and I went to the city hall here and no one could help me. Hopefully I hear back from RDW soon or I'm able to find a bike here in the Netherlands!

Sorry but I respectfully have to disagree there, I base this on my own experiences from moving a bike from England to Sweden.

The headlamp lens was for driving on the left, as it is in Ireland also, and had to be changed after which I needed an inspection certificate to prove that this had been done and the lamp was correctly aligned before the bike could be registered.

Obviously they checked the frame and engine numbers against the registration documents and required a valid test certificate from the country of origin.

If you don't have a valid test certificate you will need an EC certificate of conformity from the manufacturer before the motorcycle can be re-registered.

You just gotta luv bureaucrats

You just approved that I am right!! I described the EU principle. Also in your case: NO TECHNICAL TESTS ARE DONE!! You just need the complete paperwork to make it possible to identifie the bike's type and the bike's ID (VIN)

GRTZ,

JP

Again with the greatest of respect Jervig.

Yes in principle you are correct but you did not answer the original poster's question which was specifically about importing a motorcycle from Ireland to the Netherlands.

My reply was based on fact as I know it from my own personal experiences. I know I'm relying on the Netherlands being as strict about the vehicles on their roads as Sweden and with the Netherlands being one of the leading humanist states in the EU I considered this to be correct.

The tests carried out on my motorcycle were not, and I stress the word not, purely ocular. In my world I consider any test which requires a measuring divice or instrument to be technical and this was carried out on my motorcycle.

Because the motorcycle was originally registered in Ireland it does not entirely conform to the transport regulations of mainland Europe and as such will require a technical inspection.

In Ireland a motorcycle does not require it's first ministry of transport test (MOT) until it is four years old. After four years a motorcycle can look like it's pristine or ready for the scrap yard. When the Netherland's equivalent of the ministry of transport check the motorcycle for the items on their list they will not overlook any other obvious faults with the motorcycle.

If the bike is under four years old it will require it's EC CoC as it does not have a valid MOT, this document is often not supplied with a new bike and will need to be applied for. I know this to be factual for Yamaha motorcycles sold in Sweden.

Yes in principle you were correct but in reality the scenario your post attempted to answer was incorrect and could have wasted valuable time, money and effort for the original poster. Please note that I said could and not would as very few things in life are a certainty.

Finally I find you writing "Also in your case: NO TECHNICAL TESTS ARE DONE!!" insulting, I am neither blind nor stupid.

Bullshit!!

I have im and exported over 10.000 vehicles in and from NL and any vehicle registered in any EU country will be registered in NL as long as the vehicle can be identified as being the vehicle you present the documents of. And yes you have to modifie the headlights, but that is even without importing the car or bike as soon as you are on the Mainland.

If you don't have the documents...................nobody can help that. There is a EU law that sais that as a buyer of a new car or bike the dealer has to give you the COC on demand. In the new creditcard registration all this info is overthere and you don't need a COC at all anymore.

If the type is allready in the NL database and mentioned on your paper registration you also don't need a COC to register in NL. You only need it if the EU approval nr is not presented on the registration documents.

FWIIW: I was one of the persons who worked out this law in 90's and implemented it in NL.

In NL there is no MOT for bikes at all!!

GRTZ,

JP

Again with respect

Do you really need to swear at a total strangers?

Did you read and understand the following that I stated in my last post?

My reply was based on fact as I know it from my own personal experiences. I know I'm relying on the Netherlands being as strict about the vehicles on their roads as Sweden and with the Netherlands being one of the leading humanist states in the EU I considered this to be correct.

Basically I was saying I thought a modern country would have modern laws, obviously after what you have stated this is untrue of the Netherlands and I apologise for my mistake.

Please note that unlike you I have been polite and respectful through out all of my posts.

You write: Yes in principle you were correct but in reality the scenario your post attempted to answer was incorrect and could have wasted valuable time, money and effort for the original poster.

If you make an appointment with the RDW this whole process will take 10 minutes, no waiting time. You can even go without appointment with the risc you will have to wait for your turn. The costs?? New registration on your name included is less than 200 euro. What waste of money or time are you talking about???

GRTZ,

JP

Like I said I took for granted the Netherlands would have laws to protect citizens from dangerous and unroadworthy vehicles in line with Sweden's laws. This was as you pointed out was a mistake and I have already apologised for that.

If you register a bike in Sweden it must be weighed, emissions must be checked against the bikes documentation, they check all lights and brakes, and the speedometer must at a minimum show kph and mph, if it only shows mph it will be rejected. After this it is test ridden by the inspector for roadworthiness as bench tests will not reveal bent frames and like. After this a new number plate and registration is issued and I believe I payed 1500:- about 150€. If the bike fails the test you still have to pay for the inspection.
That was in 2010 but the Swedish laws haven't changed.

Again I apologise for believing that the Netherlands would at a minimum do the same.

The SE law didn't change but the EU law did, it is like this:

EU countries were given time to implement the new laws, mostly this is about 10 years after...........These 10 years expired and as an example Belgium was looking forward to a fine as they were still "testing" vehicles. Now this is explecit forbidden, they have to let you register the bike or car after after a identification.

Apart from that there is the once a year or once in 2 years technical approval, needed to allow you to participate in trafic. In NL we handle this as follow:

1) If there is a valid document or proof of the MOT or as it is called in Dutch APK, it will be valid in NL as well, so the date that it will expire will stay the same as before. If there is no valid MOT available they will offer you to do it immediately for you but it has nothing to do with the allowence to register the bike, only practical.

If in SE they still make a technical check to make it able to register the bike, write a complaint to Brussels!! IT IS FORBIDDEN!!

GRTZ,

JP

This thread is starting to drag on so I will just state, if I'd imported the machine from Germany what you're saying would be correct but I imported it from England and as you know within the EU there are always exceptions. For example both Sweden and the UK don't use the Euro as their currency even though they are both EU member states. Thanks for your input anyway it's been interesting.