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18 Jul 2014
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officious doesn't come into it - no insurance is up there with drink driving as far as most of my colleagues are concerned , there is no free pass full stop . if someone is injured as a result of you hitting them , what then ?? handy that the UK has the MIB to cover the financial fall out , but this is paid for by insurance companies , who pass it on to the punters .
Anyways our friend Jamoo told lies to get cover , by the sound of it to a number of questions , I strongly suggest that others don't go down this route because if caught then you bike can be kissed goodbye im afraid ............
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Originally Posted by chris gale
Liammons
officious doesn't come into it - no insurance is up there with drink driving as far as most of my colleagues are concerned , there is no free pass full stop . if someone is injured as a result of you hitting them , what then ?? handy that the UK has the MIB to cover the financial fall out , but this is paid for by insurance companies , who pass it on to the punters .
Anyways our friend Jamoo told lies to get cover , by the sound of it to a number of questions , I strongly suggest that others don't go down this route because if caught then you bike can be kissed goodbye im afraid ............
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OK, perhaps I phrased that reply all wrong. What I'm really trying to say is that insurance companies bleed extra money (for no reason of logic) from people like the origional poster to get the SAME insurance.
I'm not recommending that people don't have insurance, I'm simply bemoaning the rip off system and that the law (not necessarily the police alone) spend far to much of its/their time making sure that big corporations collect every possible penny/cent etc of profit from the ordinary person that the law/authorities should be protecting.
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i don't know enough about UK law to answer, but if Jed is only going to be in the UK for a short period, then heading in to Europe, does he need to be going through a UK insurer? Or can he go directly to a greencard, and potentially skip some of the issues raised in this thread? my (limited) understanding is he will need a greencard for mainland europe regardless
if jed is going to need a greencard at somepoint, then he should have a looksee at the thread at http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...et-cheap-34822
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After November this year the system for "road tax" changes there is no disk issued to be displayed any more. Your bike is entered onto a database by registration number. This means that the uk police look up the number if they pull you and check to see if you have paid using there hand held computer of by radioing back to base.
There are now an awful lot of ANPR (automatic number-plate recognition) systems in use to fine you if you go about and about with out it.
They can and do fine you for this, but I do not know if your bike can be seized! (hopefully someone on here will know and let us know!)
Also the Road tax is no longer transferable with the vehicle at sale. The new owner is responsible for road tax. this means the part of the month left is lost in to the seller and the part of the month gone is lost to the buyer. (an amazing government tax wheeze / con)
Also for a bike bigger than 600cc the tax is £80 per year at the moment!
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