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London is planing something simular for all old vehicles

https://consultations.tfl.gov.uk/env...e?intcmp=22947

and Paris as well: Paris will ältere Motorräder aussperren - Motorräder: StVO, Zulassung und Gesetze - MOTORRAD
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London is planing something simular for all old vehicles

https://consultations.tfl.gov.uk/env...e?intcmp=22947
If it, London, was to be totally traffic free I would even consider going there more frequently.

I suspect you are too young to have experienced "smog" (polluted fog).

There are plenty of vehicle dealers here in the UK who export old vehicles to Africa; the reasons are clear enough.
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This initiative started witht the mayor of Paris about three years ago, wanting to ban poluting motorcycles in Paris. In France there is no MOT or CT ("controle technique" for motorcyles, so a lot of the older 2 stroke bikes, esp Mopeds never get looked at or serviced properly, and are particularly polluting. Because other vehicles have to go through the CT and pass pollution control, they are not deemed to be a nuisance.

With the new harmonisation programme for vehicle testing coming on stream over the next few years, and the natural turnover in renewals, there is s strong argument against this stupidity. It will also be almost impossible to police.

Classic vehicle organisations ( like FIVA, FBHVC U.K.), are fighting this as well as it discriminates against peoples rights to use old vehicles without restriction, and vehicles which are usually maintained to a very high standard.

All said and done it`s a political issue driven by the greens, who would like to see all vehicles banned.

SUB`s// i thinik is a typo. Should be SUV`s.
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I've wondered whether the no (UK) MOT on pre 1960 vehicles (and rumoured soon to be adding another 10yrs, so pre 1970) + free road tax for pre 73 /4 (or whenever it is) is just a precursor to restricting those vehicles to clunker rallies and parades. Not quite yet but the government does tend to take its time over these things and we're getting the velvet glove first with the iron fist to follow.

Quite a few cities in Italy already ban two smokes so (for me anyway as I tour a 70's two stroke) there's already a 15yrs+ ban in place.

It's all the manufacturers fault anyway. Anyone with a few years on the clock will remember the "good old days" when cars rusted their way to the scrapyard in under 10yrs (and Vauxhalls in five). They're so much better now that loads of 15yr old ones are still in good nick and passing MOT's. My answer is that instead of getting a pollution ticket or whatever the fine will be for taking your car / bike into a restricted zone you should get a bundle of Quantitative Easing cash to buy a new one. They could just leave it under the windscreen wipers like the ticket It would probably be a better use of the money than what they're going to waste it on.

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I wonder what would've they told to Her Magesty with her old Rolls Royce in case they adopted that measure.
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I've read most of that. Any one got any idea about disable car's that are at zero rate tax, but is older than 15 year's? I have one and the reason I keep the one I have. It fit's my life style just perfect. Do I have to pay to charge?
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Makes sense. In Germany all vehicles have to undergo an MOT every 2nd year. This includes the emission test.
and diesels without a green sticker are banned from all the major urban areas.
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