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I don't think you ever get post from the greedy German "bright day light robbery department" ... at least not if you been flashed on your bike from the front even with your best smile in your face or erecting your arm showing a stinky finger right in to the camera......

well let me explain, 1st your are on a bike right... traffic light cameras have to get your registration plate on the pic and have to identify you in person as driver clearly as well at the same time !
had you have a plate on the front of your bike ? NO way to trace you there!
did you ware a helmet on your bike ? NO way to identify you in person !

been flashed in Germany flashed twice that way in one day on German plates ... never received any souvenir image in the post

and now 2nd:
if you where riding/driving a car... well...
regarding the German law, the city department (will be Berlin in your case) has to deliver this penalty order to your home address (Italy in your case) in a period of 6 weeks I believe may more, if your permanent residents address is in any foreign country ... I had that before.... that period will be to long to be processed and to delivered, your case simply will be dropped before wasting any stamps to be posted...
the time it takes to find out your address in Italy during the instances will eat up to much time.
For the law picker there is simple to much aggravation and a limited change to see the end or a result to trace you down... they will just not even bother to wast a letter, stamps or work on your case !

never ever received any post of the German "additionally county extra tax-income machine" while being registered in the UK while flashed in Germany...
even hence the traffic cops had my registration number regarding wrong parking, speeding or taking a red traffic light.
so... result is, that you less likely ever receive any of this ugly mug shots even driving in a car where they have to send a squat out to ring your door bell with this image in there hand to identify who was driving that car.
The German law can be very strickt to proof to find out who was the bastard on the roads...

OK the only option to get fined as a foreigner:
be aware that many speed traps are made by mobile cops on weekends around Berlin on the country lanes using high-tech Leaser guns reaching up to a mile or so, operated by hand. this cops will stop you and will cash in right away.
(the communities over there are tight on money and know where to set up easy speed traps to enrich there city cash box to get this extra 1.3 mil. extra-TAX to solve there situations...

well now... in case you may get any post of the German "speed trap, traffic light squad"... you don't need to surrender any "relatives" by name !
will say: you as the owner of the vehicle do not need to tell who of your relatives has been riding/driving that vehicle !
even your sister in law, any uncle, nephew, brother, mother, father or any further relation.... no one can make you tell to surrender any of this lovely clan members by name, that's your right, just deny that you have been the driver

remember the German law says, that the driver has to be clearly identified, not the owner of the vehicle....
the German department of traffic "has to proof" who was this wreck-less driver, there for "all" traffic cameras in Germany facing to the front of any vehicle.

have fun playing with the law...
spooky
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