Andrew,
the question was about newer landcruisers and TD5 landrovers - post 2000. In that case the G wagen is certainly a contender since they all have electronics and yes a better relyability record. We all see broken down vehicles by the side of the road.
If the question had been which vehicle (of any age) then the options open up
but in the 5 or 6 year old category unless you import a third world spec landcruiser then the G wagen has proved itself over and over with the basic 461 model off the shelf - no mods. Yes you won't be able to get bits in the middle of nowhere - nor will you for a 100 series cruiser or TD5.
FWIW the injection pump on the merc 290 is the same as a standard peugeot item

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there I go again
not too hard really

which biscuit to dunk in your cup of tea - Ginger Nut, or Hob Nob?

Cheers,
Matt


Oh, UK GX'x do have turbos

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"Never have a stupid argument with an idiot - he gets a lot more practice than you"
there I go again
not too hard really

Here we go again; already at 3 pages.
They're both boxes with the same number of wheels.
A large part of what they are capable of and how much they guzzle depends on driver competence/foolishness/care or whatever you want to call it.
Whatever car you take you’ll probably end up loading it to its limits, unless you’re very well disciplined/experienced (the former comes with the latter)
Sod's law (or is it Murphy) states that the moment you're stuck in some sand/mud/snow/melted chocolate or whatever there'll be someone who comes sailing by in the other brand car.

There’s not really enough space to sit on a porta potti in either (no I don’t have a bowel problem I just relish those tranquil moments, not rushing to finish in the fear that someone else is going to appear around the bush/rock/building where everyone else has already gone)

Absolutely FORCED to choose, I’d still try and find a way to choose a Daily; although at the Salon 4x4 de Val d’Isère I’ve seen some (almost) respectable camper conversions on both LR and TLC

After market upgrades: Have you ever asked yourself WHY a certain brand has so many upgrades available?

Service it, get in, drive, enjoy, fix what breaks with the facilities available where it breaks (if). The willingness and generosity of people to help travellers in distress has never ceased to amaze me, both from what I have experienced and in all the travelogs I have read. We “civilized” people have lost something there…

Talking technical: lots of people are wary of electronics. If electronic gubbins are going to pack in, they usually do it in the first year or so of their life, I wouldn’t be too worried about well tested circuit boards.
But the idea of a rubber timing belt makes me nervous; they seem to have a self destruct mileage built in, and although one can usually plan service intervals, I’ve seen more than one engine mangled because of cack in the belt pulleys and teeth.
A good old chain or gear drive will perhaps wear or be noisy, but IMHO is less likely to snap.
What type does the TLC use?

Chocolate fingers are best, but first you have to bite both ends off and then suck the tea up like a straw.

Back to the thread. My very first car was a landrover, but I think i would be tempted to take the Toyota. Check which vehicle has the best spares support in the countries you wish to travel.

baswacky.

I can't tell one toyota from another, but I gather from this thread some are not easy to find in the UK. You could try Germany or Holland, anyway I think a LHD would be best for SA and the Americas.

I use mobile.de as a good source for motorcyles.

I did a quick check and a search came up with over a 1000 landcruisers, like this one

mobile.de - the car market for second-hand and new vehicles

I brought a couple of motorcycles from Germany, cheap flight over drive them back, MOT and UK registartion, easy. Number plates can be an issue in germany, just need to be a bit creative about that.

Steve

Luke,
to answer your question all the LCs being talked about here use timing belts. Landrover Tdi engines also use them (and used to have a pretty serious quality issue). Landrover Td5 uses a chain.

On the recent landcruisers (HZJ105) the timing belt interval is 150,000kms. We have seen them let go before that with predictable consequences.

Gil