Rather than polluting other threads, vent your spleen here. Do you prefer a Toyota, does your heart tell you Land Rover?

Me - well I have an old, 200tdi Land Rover Defender 110, and have a firmly held belief that it's not all about reliability, well not to all people.

Of course, I will come back to this thread when crying my eyes out in the desert in Iran because my big end has gone ......I promise!

So please do, tell us what you think .....

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Ollie

www.jollyfollies.com

Land's End to Sydney 2009

Pictures tell a 1000 words!

I remember when following this Land Rover around the world, I bookmarked this blog entry, as it did make me smile. It includes broken down toyotas as well as a landie towing not 1, but two toyotas up a slippery hill

October 21st 2007

PS BTW What the hell is that???????????????????????????

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Ollie

www.jollyfollies.com

Land's End to Sydney 2009

That my friend Mr. Ollie is a Bacon that has been well and truly busted!!!
I have just finished my most recent copy (I get it sent airmail) of the excellent magazine 'BaconBusters' (i.e. legendary Aus Feral Pig shooting magazine) and I have to say in the various sections including
"Hogs, Dogs and Utes" as well as "Bacon Babes" there is not a single (let me repeat), nil absolutely Zero Solihull rubbish. A Trophy Grunter like that one would break any LR product

Ollie

you have really started one here

Gil
very inflammatory comments

IMHO the LR looks great and steals the hearts and minds of most Brits, however, once you have a bit of experience and some common sense its got to be a Tojo product!
The 70 series Troopies have probably got to be the ultimate Overland vehicle, but for us Brits and most Europeans the 80 is the most afordable and attainable, especially in reasonable numbers.
Personally I would not bother with another Solihull product, there is simply no quality in the most of the parts or in the work taken to put them together, and to make matters worse Solihull are well known for leaving the owners to sort out well known faults - much like Nissan have been with the D22 Navara engine problems, perhaps thats something to do with their more recent owners.

Some of the Patrols look pretty good but what are the electics like? And how good are the 3litre engines?

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Well I've commented on this subject in previous threads and my reasons are well known so I'm not going to rave on more about it except to say, one more time.......
If only I had found HU before we rushed out and bought our LR we could have saved ourselves lots of cash but I am happy to say that at least we didn't continue throwing more hard-earned money away trying to keep the vehicle on the road and outfitting it with even more 'extra's'.
We realised that even though we got a thrill out of waving to other LR owners along the way, flicking through the LR mags and all the other little things which attracted us to LR that the cold hard facts were just too big to ignore.
We wanted to enjoy our trip in every way, we didn't want to have to keep a list of workshops in each country we were planning to visit, nor did we want to eat dust or have our bones shaken to the core. We wanted to jump into our vehicle, turn the key and drive off without worries. Oh yes, I know we would have to service our LC, replace brakes, etc; etc; and if we were unlucky then we would deal with that if it happened but certainly even though the car was a major part of the trip, we wanted it in it's rightful place - a workhorse to get us from A to B in as much comfort as possible with only a small amount of the budget used in repairs and maintainence.
We want to meet the people, not the mechanics, we want to see the countryside not their workshops.
All I can say is good luck, go with whatever makes you happy, in the end it is your decision, your trip, your memories, your money.

So I guess Obelix would drive a Toyota!
and Asterix?

Incredible to think there's a whole magazine dedicated to killing boars.
I guess there must be a lot to say about driving out, shooting, loading up, driving back, lighting the barbecue, drinking and telling stories about driving out etc...

You have basically summarised the whole ethos of 'BaconBusters' Luke! Okay you have to throw in a rifle test or two! I do have to point out that I subscribed only for entertainment value for my Father who reads it and sends it on... Google it - amazing really. You can even buy armoured vests for the pig dogs to reduce the injuries they get from attacking these monsters! It is about as politically incorrect as you can get.

what about this: YouTube - Defender rescue Toyota Land Cruiser

or read this thread page about halfway down onwards!!!
Which Expediton vehicles and why? - Page 2 - Land Rover UK Forums
In reality, each to his favourite, each have strength, for me NO RUST is a big one

YouTube - Land Rover Defender Towing a 12 Tonne Truck.

I'm surprised the side shafts didn't snap

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