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Jacob:
Your proposed budget is unrealistic for a modded Land Rover. I was able to buy a decent '93 110 Defender County Station Wagon for 4,500 GBP as a base vehicle. It was in good shape but probably not ready for an extended overland trip without some mods.
After replacing all the suspension (springs and shocks), adding underbody protection, additional fuel tank, fridge/freezer, solar panel, dual battery system, cubby box, Raptor dash, security devices, new wheels/tyres, etc. the total cost of the vehicle is currently about 18K.
You can certainly get away with less modifications, but the list you have is going to take you over the 3-4K you want to spend on mods. An Engel MT45 fridge will retail at 700GBP, for example. A roof tent and awning will suck up a huge chunk of your mods budget. I suggest that you draw up a list of mods that you think you need and then begin pricing them using online prices. You'll soon get a realistic idea of what it would cost to kit the vehicle out to meet your dreams. You can then decide where to prioritise. For example, a decent ground tent will cost way less than a roof top tent and that way, you wouldn't need to buy a roof rack either.
I opted for a modified Defender - but I'm not on the tight budget that you are. It may not be the right choice for you. Considering your budget, I agree with some of the other posts. You may be better off looking at a suitable car, rather than a Land Rover/Land Cruiser type vehicle. There may be some roads/routes that you can't take in a standard car but you could save yourself a lot of money. Perhaps a station wagon / estate car that has 4-wheel drive would be a good compromise. You could fit out the rear of the vehicle so that you can sleep inside. Spend some money upgrading the suspension and maybe add a small fridge.
I don't know if you have given thought yet to the issue of a carnet, but perhaps you should factor this into your budget considerations before taking the plunge. You will need a carnet for the vehicle for Africa. Look into the cost implications for a carnet and how the cost changes depending on the cost of the vehicle. You may find that a low-budget car will keep the cost of the carnet down. Same thing with the cost of insurance - you may need to get specialised overlanding vehicle insurance such as that offered by Herts Walkabout.
In short, do your research and get a firm idea of all of the associated costs to make the trip a reality. Then 'tailor your suit to the cloth', to coin an expression.
Good luck.
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Thanks for the info  I've added some comments in red below
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Originally Posted by Bermuda Rover
Jacob:
Your proposed budget is unrealistic for a modded Land Rover. I was able to buy a decent '93 110 Defender County Station Wagon for 4,500 GBP as a base vehicle. It was in good shape but probably not ready for an extended overland trip without some mods.
After replacing all the suspension (springs and shocks), adding underbody protection, additional fuel tank, fridge/freezer, solar panel, dual battery system, cubby box, Raptor dash, security devices, new wheels/tyres, etc. the total cost of the vehicle is currently about 18K.
I've now pretty much got rid of the defender idea and I am now looking at either a 300tdi Discovery or a Toyota Land Cruiser Prado/Colorado instead which I should be able to pick up for sub £3k. I was probably a bit OTT with the mod list and I would rather travel light with a solid car than have an over ladden heavily-pimped one.
You can certainly get away with less modifications, but the list you have is going to take you over the 3-4K you want to spend on mods. An Engel MT45 fridge will retail at 700GBP, for example. A roof tent and awning will suck up a huge chunk of your mods budget. I suggest that you draw up a list of mods that you think you need and then begin pricing them using online prices. You'll soon get a realistic idea of what it would cost to kit the vehicle out to meet your dreams. You can then decide where to prioritise. For example, a decent ground tent will cost way less than a roof top tent and that way, you wouldn't need to buy a roof rack either.
I'm thinking that a more realistic mod list would be along the lines of:
Decent Tyres
Upgraded Shocks
Roof Rack (Purchase second hand to save £)
Dual Battery
Underbody protection
The rest of the stuff such as tent, awning, storage I already have stuff I could use for that to save money and I already own all of the camping gear and accessories such as stoves, chairs, sleeping bags etc. Looking at the new list, does that look unreasonable to achieve with £3k (inc money for basic service/prep)?
I opted for a modified Defender - but I'm not on the tight budget that you are. It may not be the right choice for you. Considering your budget, I agree with some of the other posts. You may be better off looking at a suitable car, rather than a Land Rover/Land Cruiser type vehicle. There may be some roads/routes that you can't take in a standard car but you could save yourself a lot of money. Perhaps a station wagon / estate car that has 4-wheel drive would be a good compromise. You could fit out the rear of the vehicle so that you can sleep inside. Spend some money upgrading the suspension and maybe add a small fridge.
I don't know if you have given thought yet to the issue of a carnet, but perhaps you should factor this into your budget considerations before taking the plunge. You will need a carnet for the vehicle for Africa. Look into the cost implications for a carnet and how the cost changes depending on the cost of the vehicle. You may find that a low-budget car will keep the cost of the carnet down. Same thing with the cost of insurance - you may need to get specialised overlanding vehicle insurance such as that offered by Herts Walkabout.
Already considered carnet, visas etc and these will all come from money which isn't factored into my £6k budget. The £6k is solely for the purchase and prep of the vehicle at this time.
In short, do your research and get a firm idea of all of the associated costs to make the trip a reality. Then 'tailor your suit to the cloth', to coiun an expression.
Thanks again!
Good luck.
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Jacob,
Your amended mod list looks much more realistic. My personal preference would be to omit the roof rack as, with one, there is a tendency to store heavy equipment up high, affecting the centre of gravity and causing the vehicle to be less stable. Also, equipment is more prone to theft when on a roof rack.
Good luck with the search for a vehicle.
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Jacob,
Your amended mod list looks much more realistic. My personal preference would be to omit the roof rack as, with one, there is a tendency to store heavy equipment up high, affecting the centre of gravity and causing the vehicle to be less stable. Also, equipment is more prone to theft when on a roof rack.
Good luck with the search for a vehicle.
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Thanks mate, I'll definitely think hard about the rack too
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