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So you are using what 2 back packs, one either side?
Vince recommend them as well, my comment would be to remind that 58 pattern is not & never was waterproof once wet stays wet for ages & shrinks once dry and slowly stretch back to size.
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Not sure if they're backpacks. I'm not familiar with the 58 gear. I've just posted a pic on the other "silvermans" thread.
Can you identify them for me Sealous ????? (or anyone)
I knew they wern't waterproof so I've sealed them with multipurpose waterproofer (£15 for 4L but only needed 1.5L for a dousing), using a £2 spray gun.
I tested them with the hose and the water beads off... Still, all my gear is kept in waterproof roll bags anyway. I can recommend these to anyone if they're looking for a cheap, waterproof softbag "inner bag"
They cost about £5 each. I bought 4 on ebay. When full, each 58 pannier fits 2.
I also love the side pockets, straps, and hangers on my 58 stuff.
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Large Packs.
Hi Ted, they look like "Large Packs", that's large compared to their sister "Small Packs". The '58 webbing consisted of a web belt onto which a shoulder yoke clipped. Two ammo pouches clipped to the front waist and one large pack was hung from the yoke and could be removed quickly. They're not battery acid proof either. Lindsay.
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Hi Ted, they look like "Large Packs", that's large compared to their sister "Small Packs". The '58 webbing consisted of a web belt onto which a shoulder yoke clipped. Two ammo pouches clipped to the front waist and one large pack was hung from the yoke and could be removed quickly. They're not battery acid proof either. Lindsay.
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you missed out kidney pouches water bottle and poncho roll.
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I can recommend the Ortlieb saddle bags! They are absolutely waterproof, easy to mount, hold on tight to the bike and they are lightweights!
Last year I used those on a trip round the baltic sea and I think they´re good equipment. Only thing is that it takes a little fumbling to open them up. My brother used Gobi panniers, weighed 18kg´s (panniers and rack).
This year we´re both with the Ortliebs.
Prevents you from taking to much stuff on the way, too
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I can recommend the Ortlieb saddle bags! They are absolutely waterproof, easy to mount, hold on tight to the bike and they are lightweights!
Last year I used those on a trip round the baltic sea and I think they´re good equipment. Only thing is that it takes a little fumbling to open them up. My brother used Gobi panniers, weighed 18kg´s (panniers and rack).
This year we´re both with the Ortliebs.
Prevents you from taking to much stuff on the way, too 
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I've spoken to Ortlieb. They answered as they don't have side bags in Dortmund/Köln are but in Berlin.
Will try to organise at my next visit to Germany  Hope I find...
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pannier
Here is my 2 cents.
If you a lot off road and travel 1 up ,soft luggae can do it pretty well for a while .
If you are travelling for long time mostly on hard pack and want your gears to stay safe while visiting cities then hard luggage plastic or metal are better.
when you are 2 up they are much better due to the fact that you can carry more stuff. For tough off road I love the ortlieb sof pannier
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oxford bags
Oxford bags, the cheap ones 40quid a pair, yup there crap!!! they aint waterproof!!! BUTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!
my wife has had hers for 60,000km on our RTW, weve repaired them in Africa ,Asia, South america and they are still working.
The only reason I dont have mine is mine went up in smoke when I lost the little rubber bung that keeps the side panel off the exhaust in Tanzania last year, an interesting experiance.
They fit really well on our XT600,s
Most bags are crap, these are as bad as most but they do the job very cheaply and are easy to repair, the zips have lasted well, they just rip the seams occasionaly.
Works for us,
a bonus is when you arrive at a border you look like a tramp, our nickname is team skint and we rarely get asked for a bribe
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Originally Posted by *Touring Ted*
Not sure if they're backpacks. I'm not familiar with the 58 gear. I've just posted a pic on the other "silvermans" thread.
Can you identify them for me Sealous ????? (or anyone)
I knew they wern't waterproof so I've sealed them with multipurpose waterproofer (£15 for 4L but only needed 1.5L for a dousing), using a £2 spray gun.
I tested them with the hose and the water beads off... Still, all my gear is kept in waterproof roll bags anyway. I can recommend these to anyone if they're looking for a cheap, waterproof softbag "inner bag"
They cost about £5 each. I bought 4 on ebay. When full, each 58 pannier fits 2.
I also love the side pockets, straps, and hangers on my 58 stuff. 
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Hi Ted, yep the 1 on the right as we can see it is a 58 back pack.
On the other side (of the pack) you would have 2 metal hooks one on either side & 2 clips these would go over the yoke on to D rings just at tit level the hooks round the side the yoke was worn with a belt & 2 ammo pouches in front 2 kidney pouches a water bottle pouch as well and a poncho roll just below your bum! if like me you where 5 ft 5 lol. on the yoke as on the back pack as a small bit of webbing that is for a entrenching tool (pitch fork or spade) clip on there.
FYI I still have my 58 belt order, with yoke we would then remove the kidney pouches and put more pouches instead & in certain, operations we would just have belt order minus yoke as well
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