Yup... 85l is what you want.
I've got a 55l and it struggled to get my 30L Centrino backpack in when stuffed full but just closed.
The 85 can fit a large rucksack, a rolled up large ortlieb roll bag or a 55l ortlieb 'rack pack' just right.
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