Listen up Ortlieb!
I just spotted these and got all excited until I realised they were 35L in total. What use is that on the road?
Roll-top (no zips) is the way to go. We need the same shape, ie: 'no pillion' long and shallow - so much easier to get to everything - but 25 or even 30L each side. Include the nifty Q/D clip-on feature of the Ort QL2s but up to 18mm. The pushbike clip-on pans cater for variable rack Ø, after all.
Add a self-draining PET water or oil bottle pocket holder or two on the outside and that would be a great, all-purpose AM pannier, IMO.
Chris S
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