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I use soft luggage, and it will do. BUT.. I did not see all of the things I wanted to see for the very reason you mention, that of not being able to leave the bike loaded and secure. If you can find it I would go the solid luggage route. If there are any nasty corner near you heels, maybe attach a bit of bike tyre to round off any points that might make human impact if you topple or otherwise come off.
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Hi, i would agree and opt for hardcases for the security. Andy
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I use soft luggage, and it will do. BUT.. I did not see all of the things I wanted to see for the very reason you mention, that of not being able to leave the bike loaded and secure. If you can find it I would go the solid luggage route. If there are any nasty corner near you heels, maybe attach a bit of bike tyre to round off any points that might make human impact if you topple or otherwise come off.
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thanks for the advice. I'm a bit scared of the alu panniers too, don't want to break a leg or something. Most of the time i will ride tarmac, only a little bit of dirt roads. If I go for the alu panniers I will definetly also buy some full mx-boots for protection. The bike tyre idea sounds nice too.
Still not 100% sure though...
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What is it that you are hoping to find by asking here? You say you know all the advantages and disadvantages, and it's for sure the subject has been done to death repeatedly, but you are still uncertain. What would make you certain?
Or maybe you'll never be "100% sure," in which case the next best thing is to just decide and go with it. Most of us are not "100% sure" about anything--which brand of bike, what size engine, which clothing or boots or helmet, what time of year......you name it, there are always arguments for each side of a discussion. Waiting for 100% is a recipe for paralysis.
I chose hard cases; you already know the reasons. Someone else chose soft cases; you know their reasons, too. I wear MX boots; the next person doesn't. What's missing?
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Heavy aluminium luggage on an XT sucks !! I used softbags from Uk-capetown and not once was security as issue...
Although for other reasons, have you considered plastic luggage ??? They get forgotten in the whole hard vs soft debate.
They're much lighter, flex rather than break and offer the same amount of security as aluminium...
Maybe pelican cases too !!
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Heavy aluminium luggage on an XT sucks !! I used softbags from Uk-capetown and not once was security as issue...
Although for other reasons, have you considered plastic luggage ??? They get forgotten in the whole hard vs soft debate.
They're much lighter, flex rather than break and offer the same amount of security as aluminium...
Maybe pelican cases too !!
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Didn't think about plastic luggage actualy. Thought that it would break easily... Pelican cases are an option too...
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For security the hard boxes will keep out the the honest people. The reason I have them. (and well I got the on an old bike for free)
I have not seen a light box made that can keep someone out that wants in. most will pop open with little more than the use of a hammer. So there is some limitations right there. Add to that you can not gust pull them off the bike like soft bags.
In the end if some one cuts open your soft bag you will think you need a hard box if you brake your leg or foot on your hard box you will think you need a soft bag.
You may want to look at packsafe Pacsafe Anti-Theft Bags & Travel Security Products
not side a side bag option but there may be something you can work around.
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Didn't think about plastic luggage actualy. Thought that it would break easily... Pelican cases are an option too...
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I had plastic givi boxes on all of my Africa Twins. I dropped the bikes countless times and they never once broke, cracked or deformed. They can take a hell of abuse.
Compared to my uber expensive metal mules which were out of shape after a 2mph sand topple...
I would think its actually harder to break into plastic boxes than aluminium. The plastic flexes where you would use a tool. In the dealership I worked in, we had to break into a set because the owner lost their keys. It wasn't as easy as we expected.
The only thing is, they look look at "cool" and "overland" as the other options...
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My Cagiva Elefant came with plastic cases (H&B Gobi enduro). They were massively over-filled with ducati spares but stayed intact despite many many trips into the sand/mud/tarmac. the racks on the other hand disentegrated completely.
Also they don't look like they cost an arm and a leg which has got to be an advantage.
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thnaks for the valuable info folks, helps alot! Impulsive as I am, I just came up with the idea of not taking any panniers/sidebags at all. Just sticking all my stuff on the back of my xt. Maybe a giantloop with some kind of tailbag or case... Has anybody done this?
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thnaks for the valuable info folks, helps alot! Impulsive as I am, I just came up with the idea of not taking any panniers/sidebags at all. Just sticking all my stuff on the back of my xt. Maybe a giantloop with some kind of tailbag or case... Has anybody done this?
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I'd love to ride like this.....
The giant loops look a pain to pack/unpack for longer trips and i'm sure people say they leak quite a bit ???
Just one 40L Ortlieb rack pack on the back would be great. But, it's not big enough if you want to take camping gear. A large tankbag would be good to spread the weight too.
Maybe two roll bags stacked up ??
What's worth considering about the panniers is that they keep the weight lower which keep handling as it should be.
I don't know what all the debate and stress is about anyway. Just buy some cheap ones like I did.. £20 quid !!
Pack LIGHT LIGHT LIGHT LIGHT... Take half what you think you'l need then send the rest home 
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What is it that you are hoping to find by asking here? You say you know all the advantages and disadvantages, and it's for sure the subject has been done to death repeatedly, but you are still uncertain. What would make you certain?
Or maybe you'll never be "100% sure," in which case the next best thing is to just decide and go with it. Most of us are not "100% sure" about anything--which brand of bike, what size engine, which clothing or boots or helmet, what time of year......you name it, there are always arguments for each side of a discussion. Waiting for 100% is a recipe for paralysis.
I chose hard cases; you already know the reasons. Someone else chose soft cases; you know their reasons, too. I wear MX boots; the next person doesn't. What's missing?
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Just looking for some tips and points of attention. Don't wet your pants. Sorry bout using the forum for what it's made for...
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