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great pictures,looks like lots changed on these bikes before the big trip.are the basic tenere not upto it as standard?:confused1:
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great pictures,looks like lots changed on these bikes before the big trip.are the basic tenere not upto it as standard?:confused1:
When i fitted up the luggage the bikes were pretty much standard, a few bolt on's, crash bars racks, different hand guards, duck tape here and there. I dont have a RR, im just the luggage builder, i have a DR in the shed now fitting up for a long way round style trip, i build a lot of 1200GS luggage.
I build my pannier frames with atachment points so i can also fit a alloy support plate for soft luggage and they have extra tie down points that will take the 2 inch wise stretch straps that Andy makes, i get customers that have both soft and hard luggage because there are people out there that like to use either, the F800GS has both fitted, he uses the soft bags for weekend more off road and the hard bags if he and the misses are going a bit softer. I only build hard luggage but i dont bag the soft bags, i work in with them.
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Hard or Soft - 10 cents

This is my experience and I am sure it will not suit everybody.

On the road I went with givi style. 2 x 44ltr panniers 1 x 50 top box. That was for two up 3 months camping. We ended up mounting a frame on the top on the top box for the tent with a pacsafe mesh around it. You have to put as much weight in the panniers as possible and do it evenly. Leaving the top box for light stuff that you want access to more regularly. This set was reasonably secure as all boxes lock on to the mounting frame. If we had to leave the bike somewhere for a long period a 10mm stainless cable was threaded thru the boxes, the bike frame and a power pole and then covered. It turned out that we could have gone a fair bit smaller on the sizes...

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Off road I used all soft luggage. The top bag's slot for the hoop tore in one stack but was then strapped on. Other than they no probs. I also find that when riding off road standing up on the pegs keeps you away from the bike in crashes and even helps avoid some..

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The security side of it, all you can do is make it hard for the thieves. Make it take too long or not worth the effort. If they really want it they will take it.
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I've done long trips with a wide array of luggage from two-up and everything strapped to the rear packrack, to topbox and hard panniers, to soft panniers and to underseat storage with a large topbox.

I find the last option best but you only get it if you ride a maxiscooter.

For me, hard vs. soft isn't really an issue, the each have their strengths/weaknesses but the additional weight of a hard pannier is frankly very little in the overall scheme of things. I think the options can be summarised as follows:

Hard - expensive, more secure and waterproof, easy to remove to take into a hotel room.
Soft - cheap, less secure, things will get when it rains, harder to remove/strap on.
Topbox - moderate pricing, secure, waterproof, but watch out when riding on corrugations as they can snap your subframe.
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