I'll second the sentiments about Holan. Paid in full and was told production would start in a few days, took weeks and weeks to deliver. I sent emails and was told they would be dispatched the next dayt. Lies. After well over two months of either making promises they didn't keep or just ignoring my emails completely I threatened to get a credit card refund, by which time they finally dispatched the panniers. Product is really nice quality and no complaints on the kit, but the company need a rocket up their posteriors.
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