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Just to let you know My initial plan was to build in pac safe type of mesh - this is the ideal security solution - but I am finding it very hard to find a supplier of the mesh wire system - but am still looking and if I can find it it will be top of my list to fit. Also I have tried several kevlar materials however I am finding them disappointing in actual tests. Even the best one that has been given rave reviews by the manufacturer (at £45.00 meter) is just not up to the job and has failed some of the high abrasion and cut tests that I would want it to pass for an exterior layer. However still working at getting the right combination of materials so just bare with me and keep your requirements coming in and I will try to pool the ideas into one quality and affordable product.
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Just to let you know My initial plan was to build in pac safe type of mesh - this is the ideal security solution - but I am finding it very hard to find a supplier of the mesh wire system - but am still looking and if I can find it it will be top of my list to fit. Also I have tried several kevlar materials however I am finding them disappointing in actual tests. Even the best one that has been given rave reviews by the manufacturer (at £45.00 meter) is just not up to the job and has failed some of the high abrasion and cut tests that I would want it to pass for an exterior layer. However still working at getting the right combination of materials so just bare with me and keep your requirements coming in and I will try to pool the ideas into one quality and affordable product.
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You could try and look into the working clothes made for forest workers. They are chainsaw proof !!
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You could try and look into the working clothes made for forest workers. They are chainsaw proof !!
The material in chainsaw pants is designed to clog up the chain and stop it as quickly as possible .
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leather jacket with small plates of metal sewn on
so like Harley panniers, but with so many studs you can't actually see the leather?!

That opens up a whole new market, matching whips, chaps etc
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Once again thanks for the comments - the facts are that all panniers be it alloy boxes or soft luggage are not really secure almost any alloy box can be opened and or removed from the bike with little effort and very basic tools the alloy boxes have the mental impact that they are strong fortresses to protect all that you have but at the end of the day they are simply a box with a lock on that in most cases a knife or screwdriver will break open. As for soft luggage it is not so different it can be cut / removed / opened however if i can add a simple deterent to make it a little more difficult to just walk away with them or open or access the luggage then really that seems to be the limit that can be achieved. I can not go down the road of super secure armoured panniers there is no real point - I also have to try to keep real these are soft luggage with as much build quality and strength I can design in but there are limitations - so far the pac safe mesh system seems to be about the most versatile / secure and simple system that I can find - the problem is production quantities they are willing to supply at and if it can be done within a costing that these poorly funded travellers are willing to pay.
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Great idea Jake.

Must be waterproof, roll top closure, steel - lockable buckles, perhaps an 'easy attach' mechanism for pannier rail mounting (with optional, detachable shoulder straps to make a rucksack), extra abrasion resistant material at potential contact points.

Slash proof material would be a bonus - don't some curtain-siders (wagon trailers) have a HD slash proof material - slash theft is a big problem for hauliers.

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