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I'll make sure I bear that in mind next time I use a zip-lock sandwhich bag to transfer fuel between bikes.

C'mon, reality check please. We are talking about a standby way of adding some short term extra fuel capacity. As said, beats a pop bottle or three.
And its always a group unusual events when accidents occur, the fuel container issue is just a part of risk reduction for any trip - just like wearing boots instead of thongs. If you want 750kms fuel range, buy a tank or bike that gives you the range.

About 95% of accidents involve another party (5% single vehicle accidents), so whilst you maybe prepared to accept the risk of injury to yourself - maybe other people would take a dimmer view of being sprayed with petrol, especially in remote areas of third world countries where medical help may not be available to them - whilst you get an air ambulance home.
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If you want 750kms fuel range, buy a tank or bike that gives you the range.

About 95% of accidents involve another party (5% single vehicle accidents), so whilst you maybe prepared to accept the risk of injury to yourself - maybe other people would take a dimmer view of being sprayed with petrol, especially in remote areas of third world countries where medical help may not be available to them - whilst you get an air ambulance home.
RogerM, I take onboard the aspect of risk reduction. Using road networks for prolonged periods of time on a trip is inherently risky and much can be done to minimise it. The impact of a risk does not affect its probability and in a case where you're carrying 7Ltrs of fuel on an occasional basis your likelihood of 'spraying' anyone other than yourself when you fill it up is, at best, slight. That's before we get onto not needing 750km ranges all the time or wanting to spend hundreds on a new, large tank - if they even make one for your bike in the first place.

We'll just have to agree to disagree - I'll buy you a pint with the money I save on a bigger tank if you agree to pour it on me if my bladder catches fire
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Just so you can see..
For anyone who's interested, I finally filled up the bladder from my metal jerrycan and...sat on it to see if it leaked. No worries - these things are tough.



I then measured the fuel out again. The pic had 7.2ltrs of fuel with an air gap. They recommend only filling to 7ltrs. Not a single leak from the cap or the spout. Very impressed.



Then I rolled the thing up to show the optimum size. The spout sits in the bladder when it's full although in this case I removed it to get the optimum. Looks like it'll go in my packsafe (for special occasions) just fine.



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I've still got one of these to sell. £25 + a couple of quid p&p.

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I've still got one of these to sell. £25 + a couple of quid p&p.

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Sorry guys, it was too good an opportunity to miss, but I promise it'll be well used.
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Hi All,

Has anyone any experience of using Swiss Army rubber water containers ( see pic ) for short term ( day or two ) petrol storage ? Apparently USA pilots of Piper Cubs use these often as spare fuel bladders, in fact the fuel tanks in the wings of Piper Cubs are made of rubber. These are 20 litre - it would also be easy to cut a circular disc out of rubber and insert it under the tap to stop any chance of tap leakage and being Army they are probably tough as old boots !
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About 95% of accidents involve another party (5% single vehicle accidents), so whilst you maybe prepared to accept the risk of injury to yourself - maybe other people would take a dimmer view of being sprayed with petrol, especially in remote areas of third world countries where medical help may not be available to them - whilst you get an air ambulance home.
Appreciate your concerns, but gee, thats a very misleading use of data mate ... the accidents that involve other parties tend to be in populated areas ... exactly the places you wont be using your fuel bladder. - How many motorcycle dropping incidents or stacks in the simpson desert involve innocent 3rd parties?

As for how people approach fuel safety in the 3rd world, where people routinely smoke cigarettes while refuelling ... I think this is a red herring.
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As for how people approach fuel safety in the 3rd world, where people routinely smoke cigarettes while refuelling ...
Thats probably due to those third world fuel refillers knowing that a cigarette doesn't burn at a hot enough temperature to ignite either fuel or vapour, drop a lit cigarette in your petrol tank, it goes out.....

They probably found out by trial and error however our western health and safety mad society says not to do this.

Matches however are a very different story.
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