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Do they sell them in the UK?
No, and when you import them you get stung with VAT. They should perhaps be viewed as an alternative to good quality hard boxes, not as a cheaper option. Still way cheaper than MM though!

There is a smaller option and a 'rackless' bag is on the way for real hardcore lightweight afficianados.
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21 Bros from Poland - 150 quidish.
Review here: Panniers on the xCountry | Defylife Adventure
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Wow, how have I missed this thread.

That's my general overview of the 21 brothers panniers in the link above.

Nothing bad to say about them yet (one or two small niggles), but then I've only used them in the UK so far. They will get a proper test on my Moroccan tour in April.

When sports bike throw over panniers can cost as little of £30, I just can't bring myself to spend £300+ on "Adventure" panniers, no matter how well made they are, so these were a compromise. I use that term loosely as the only compromise (for me) is that they don't come with their own inner dry bags for quick removal, but they are 100% waterproof.
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21 Bros from Poland - 150 quidish.
Review here: Panniers on the xCountry | Defylife Adventure
Very nice looking bags! Have you managed to use them?
I wonder if they can be mounted using over (or under) seat straps rather than
attaching to racks? In my experience ... racks break when supporting entire weight of bags.

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I'm in the process of setting up my Wolfman Expedition Dry Panniers on my bike. I had a Giant Loop Great Basin and didn't care for the zip system and all in one compartment. It's also not waterproof. So these Wolfman bags are yet to be tested but seem like very high quality.

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I like the look of the Wolfman Rocky Mountain panniers. There doesn't seem to be much information around these. Much bigger than the Expedition panniers which is what most are after.
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They're BIG. you can fit a lot in them. Maybe too big is you can't restrain your packing. The side pockets are great too.

And yes. From Silverman's.
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Those canvas bags are a good, low cost option!

Similar to our military surplus bags too. In the US we have a product called "Scotch Guard" (made by 3M). Works pretty good on canvas, making it waterproof or at least "resistant". Needs to be reapplied every season. Not 100% but really helps in my experience using it for decades.

Scotch Guard used in combo with water proof inner bags ... should work out OK. Inner bags are good in any case. Quick to grab and go at Hotel or campsite, keeps goods clean, dry and organized ... which for me is the best part. I hate digging through duffle bags.
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Yip..separate dry bags is perfect. Just grabbing a hand full of bags is so much nicer than portaging panniers..
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How so? You just Chuck them over your shoulder and have hands free to open doors or sign in or whatever.
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That works fine if they're clean and dry and just thrown over the bike like horse bags.
But if they're covered in mud and muck and lashed to the rack or bike in a not very q/d manner and you're worn out and heading into the Magadan Hilton for a well-earned treat, it's so much easier to avoid all the fumbling and whip out the clean inner bags, hook them together, walk up to reception and clang the bell.
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That works fine if they're clean and dry and just thrown over the bike like horse bags.
But if they're covered in mud and muck and lashed to the rack or bike in a not very q/d manner and you're worn out and heading into the Magadan Hilton for a well-earned treat, it's so much easier to avoid all the fumbling and whip out the clean inner bags, hook them together, walk up to reception and clang the bell.
I agree. With inner bags I can tote everything in one go.
I've got a rear top duffle that's got to come in as well, but the panniers stay put.

I've got panniers secured in a few places, takes about 5 minutes to UNDO everything. But with inner bags it's 5 minutes I don't have to spend fiddling ... Grab and Go! ... Same goes in AM. Inner bags go right back in. Done.
Very nice at end of a long, hard riding day.
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How so? You just Chuck them over your shoulder and have hands free to open doors or sign in or whatever.
Depends where you are. If you're camping or parked up somewhere half secure then yeah, I just throw the inner bags over my should (they have shoulder straps) and into my tent or room. That leaves a hand free for my tank bag, gps, keys etc etc. Only one journey required.

Or yeah, you can just unclip the bags (only four clips), and drag the lot in. Which is usually what I do.
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I forgot you travel in style Chris.

If the bags are covered in mud you likely are too though. It'll be an awkward affair in any case. But if the liners go back in easily it's nice to be able to do that.
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