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Do you happen to know anybody else with that same problem? What I'm trying to figure out is whether this is a general problem or specific to your stove. Because a stove that expensive should not suffer from defects such as this. And the 170€ price tag is accurate for Germany - I've seen'em online for ~160€ plus S&H. And since we still have a 190€ coupon (returned a North Face jacket that turned out to be anything but waterproof) for a spots equipment store that happens to carry camping and hiking equipment as well, we'll probably get it there.
I'm still not convinced though, and still not sure I'm willing to spend that much money on something as basic as a fuel stove. The cleaning part does relieve me a bit though, I don't mind cleaning it every now and then as long as it's not twice a week 
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Do you happen to know anybody else with that same problem? What I'm trying to figure out is whether this is a general problem or specific to your stove.
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I have no idea if this is specific to my stove or not; I've never asked, but as it started a while down the line, I'm sure it's a case of adjusting, cleaning or replacing a single piece. Otherwise it would have been a problem from day one!
If this is an issue for you, you could have the best of both worlds: a small gas burner for the more well stocked places that have canisters, like a MSR Pocket Rocket, or Primus Mimer. They are very small: the canister being the majority of the bulk and then have a woodburner for other areas...
There was one stove on here a while back that looked like a large tobacco tin. You opened at hinged points and it turned into a wood burner with a pot platform. Together they would still be about half the price of the Omnifuel...and about the same space...
I am happy with my Primus, and I can live with the quirk as I know I'll get it sorted when I finally get my act together...but that is not to say that there aren't plenty of alternatives.
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I did some further research and found out some rather disheartening facts. Warthog, your problem seems to be very common. I found several customer complaints about a leaking coupling, apparantly due to really cheap o-ring seals. In addition, the fuel pump has some more of these super cheap o-ring seals built-in and constantly fails below a certain ambient temperature (I found everything between -5°C and -30°C). Thus, I have to assume that those are both not individual cases but rather common. If you ask me that's inacceptable for a 170€ stove.
I'm also rather crestfallen that pretty much every other stove carries its own baggage, too. Cheap pastic fuel pumps (MSR), cheap o-ring seals (all Primus stoves), noise level (MSR, Juwel), etc. And I'm not willing to spend 100 bucks or more on a stove that I already know is a) going to break, b) going to leak, c) going to fail below a certain ambient temperature (e.g. when you *REALLY* need it), or d) wake everybody up.
To be honest, I'm rather discouraged and a bit disoriented at the moment. I'll check out the Svea next, but the hobo stove looks more and more promising.
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Well, it is a shame to hear that. I must say that I can work around the issue but,yes, at the price, it's a bit disappointing. I had corresponded with Primus: they had given good advice that resolved the leak on dismantling the coupling after use, but not the leak before which is the mmore hazardous...
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I don't need one, but like the look for sheer simplicity. But, when you are in the middle of nowhere, if it is raining, your twigs will be pretty worthless....
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That is why the Svea is so nice. no moving parts to ever fail. If it get some crap in the fuel it comes with a key that you use to take it apart and just blow the junk out and it is just like new. I have used mine over 500 times and cooked for groups as large as 10 with it. It takes a while because it is just one burner but it really blows out the heat. Any temp it will work and in fact the colder it is the better it works because of the simple principle that it works. 'There are no pumps that can fail. It is as foolproof as gravity. It is pretty much bomb proof as that article said. I have had mine fall out of horse packs to the ground and that did not hurt a thing. Hundreds of backpacking trips. Rain on it. No problem. Gas will light even if it is raining on it.
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I tried my Swedish Army Trangia outside at -31c yesterday .
It worked OK and brought 500ml of water from 5c to boiling in just over 12 minutes .The fuel was methyl hydrate and was at room temp .
The burner was lit outside and the pot placed on it immediately ,no warm up ,just light her and go .
All in all a fair performance for a very cheap and simple stove in adverse conditions.
Might be something to think about .
I'd love to try a Svea 123 as well ,they look a very nice unit .
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I have used the Primus for several years and never had any problems with it but I never operate the coupling when it’s pressurized.
It’s the best burner I’ve used.
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Do you happen to know anybody else with that same problem? What I'm trying to figure out is whether this is a general problem or specific to your stove. Because a stove that expensive should not suffer from defects such as this. And the 170€ price tag is accurate for Germany - I've seen'em online for ~160€ plus S&H. And since we still have a 190€ coupon (returned a North Face jacket that turned out to be anything but waterproof) for a spots equipment store that happens to carry camping and hiking equipment as well, we'll probably get it there.
I'm still not convinced though, and still not sure I'm willing to spend that much money on something as basic as a fuel stove. The cleaning part does relieve me a bit though, I don't mind cleaning it every now and then as long as it's not twice a week |
mine never leaks when i connect the fuelbottle to the stove.
when im done cooking i will first close the bottle, then i let the stove burn out, no leaking what so ever!
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