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Depends on what you mean by "open" helmet - moto-cross or pilot type helmet? The enduro is ok, but the second type I consider as potentially dangerous, no matter how good your riding skills are. Things do happen now & then, like broken jaw etc. when going for a loop.
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I could not find a 'full ' helmet with a chin protection that i could wear with my glasses. I used an open faced one with peak until last year when i bought another open faced one with screen. The reason for the change was the aforementioned wasps ( and hornets) and the odd stone that would bounce off my bikes fairing. I do miss the peak. Oddly the new helmet is noisier an I hope this year to fit a slightly taller screen. But I feel safer from the threat of a small flying stone going through a lens on my glasses.
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Caberg Justissimo Flip Up, as I like to filter with it up and for hot weather slow riding around town (inner visor protect my eyes), and as soon as I reach 40 flip it down from protection.
As you know I'm far far too pretty not to look after my face, hell I've only got the one.
As for off road, the Berg is ok with good visability but I also own an enduro lid and googles.
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I could not find a 'full ' helmet with a chin protection that i could wear with my glasses.
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Next time you go to buy glasses .. chose ones that work with a helmut! The distance from the hindge to the lens should be small - minimusing the width. I take my hemut with me .. if the glasses don't fit .. I try the next shop.
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I could not find a 'full ' helmet with a chin protection that i could wear with my glasses. .
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I use a Schuberth J1 - open face Jet style with some chin protection and I can wear my specs too.
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I'm afraid a open face helmet might give the words "jaw dropping" a new - and more literal - meaning. So I prefer my Schuberth full face for touring and my HJC cross helmet for offroading. But that's just me. Others prefer otherwise, I'm sure.
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I have heard in a few places that some MX lids and even some flip down lids are no better than an off face lid in a crash as the chin bar is not that strong so just breaks on impact. cant remember where i heard this.
Personally i like a full face helmet even if it is hot, 1 for protection and 2 i ride a motorX type bike so no fairing, and can get very windy. Also the weather here in the UK changes very quickly. For off roading at the moment i dont have a MX lid but will hopefully get one soon with a set of googles.
Dont know what it is but i just feel more safe, properly because its enclosed more
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Its what I use...
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Depends on what you mean by "open" helmet - moto-cross or pilot type helmet? The enduro is ok, but the second type I consider as potentially dangerous, no matter how good your riding skills are. Things do happen now & then, like broken jaw etc. when going for a loop.
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Vaufi, I totally agree on your points there. But the Enduro type lid & Goggles are no good if you are a spectacle wearer like Myself. I can't wear Contacts, tried n Failed at that. so what do I do?
So, I use a fully open lid. Jet style, OK, it offers no lower face protection, and I know that, it is a risk I am prepared to take. I have ridden perhaps most of my road miles and definitely all my off road miles in a lid of this type. I know the risks and wont moan if I lose half my face if /when I come off!
I DO own a full face lid, and I hate it... I feel claustrophobic in it. I only wear that if on a long journey on road now.
As for a Broken Jaw, Yes, Been there, done that! ( Pushbike)
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I use a schuberth J1 also this is great, its open face has a removable Bar type chin jaw protector a flip down dark visor as well a superb full face clear shield visor, the helmet is very comfortable and stable at all speeds, even the visor up position the helmet is fine at speeds upto 100mph without the visor flipping down and virtually no drag from the visor being up either. I have used this helmet since its release on the market about 2 1/2 years now and have never returned to wearing a full face since. The internal ventilation works really well as well giving a definate stream of air jetted onto the top of your head cooling the bonce when its hotter. I ride all weather snow rain sun whatever and find the helmet warm and comfortable in every situation ( save for a bit coolness around the chin (a windstopper tube saves that problem). downside is its pricy - currently about £250 from some retailers.
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Full face.
For me, the likely damage to your face in the event of a crash is too horrendous to consider wearing an open face. I have worn a motorcross lid with goggles for when its raining or windy etc and this has been fine. I should point out that I have always had the Arai fullface too and do not find it claustrophobic, but the motorcross lid was used on our S America trip to good effect. It was very airy.
Like Martynbiker, I also wear glasses: always have done and I have never had problems with googles. However, my frames are not massive, but they are not tiny either...
I really do feel that, if a conventional full face is not to yor taste, a motorcross lid is your best bet for ventilation (but it will be noisy at speed). Flip-up lids? These look like to be a nice compromise, but in the UK they are only classed as a Type A EC approved lid with the chin section down. Once raised the helmet no longer conforms: something to consider from an insurance point of view...
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It worries me too you know......
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Full face.
For me, the likely damage to your face in the event of a crash is too horrendous to consider wearing an open face. I have worn a motorcross lid with goggles for when its raining or windy etc and this has been fine.
Like Martynbiker, I also wear glasses: always have done and I have never had problems with googles. However, my frames are not massive, but they are not tiny either...
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It worries me too, and I would love to find a Motocross lid & Goggles that will fit correctly.
What Make of Helmet? & What Brand of Goggles? Please?
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It worries me too, and I would love to find a Motocross lid & Goggles that will fit correctly.
What Make of Helmet? & What Brand of Goggles? Please?
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I've got a pair of OTG (Over The Glasses) goggles and a Lazer motorcross helmet. The combination works very well for me.
Goggles also worked with previous helmet as well.
I think the goggles are Scott but we've just moved house and whilst I know what box they are in I haven't got to it yet.
I have found the receipt for them though and whilst it doesn't show the make it says they are model 87 and I'm pretty certain they are by Scott.
I'm afraid I'm a couple of days away from getting to the box they are in but I'll confirm when I get there.
Moving house eh, try and avoid it if you can.
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I know this is probably going to sound daft to some but what exactly are the differences between a Moto X lid and a road orientated helmet?
I can see they are a slightly different shape but other than that I know not a lot?
The BIG question is are they as SAFE as a road lid?
Are they a better alternative in the Summer months when it hots up?
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I know this is probably going to sound daft to some but what exactly are the differences between a Moto X lid and a road orientated helmet?
I can see they are a slightly different shape but other than that I know not a lot?
The BIG question is are they as SAFE as a road lid?
Are they a better alternative in the Summer months when it hots up?
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Basically, a peak to help keep the flying stones and mud at bay combined with goggles (easy(ish) to change them) in place of a visor.
The Arai Tour X (and one or two more like it) are a compromise with the road going helmet in that it uses a visor with the detachable peak.
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Thnx!
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I've got a pair of OTG (Over The Glasses) goggles and a Lazer motorcross helmet. The combination works very well for me.
Goggles also worked with previous helmet as well.
I think the goggles are Scott but we've just moved house and whilst I know what box they are in I haven't got to it yet.
I have found the receipt for them though and whilst it doesn't show the make it says they are model 87 and I'm pretty certain they are by Scott.
I'm afraid I'm a couple of days away from getting to the box they are in but I'll confirm when I get there.
Moving house eh, try and avoid it if you can.
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Thank you.
and im allergic to house moves....... did 7 in 7 years..... I couldnt find stuff for YEARS after!
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