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Ok!! But I can simply go to a tube repair shop ans ask to put me 2 tubes inside the rims? Does it work with tubeless tires? Do I need to modify something to the rim?
Thanks for the feedback, I hope to be able to drive the last 800km to ulan bataar and then let me my spare rims shipped from home
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Ok!! But I can simply go to a tube repair shop ans ask to put me 2 tubes inside the rims? Does it work with tubeless tires? Do I need to modify something to the rim? ...
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Yes, ask any tire shop, they might have suitable tubes.
Yes, tubeless rims will work with tubes inside tubeless tires.
No, no modifications needed, except remove the valve stem from the rim.
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Ok thanks for this information, this will help, I will go to see tomorrow in a tyre repair shop if they have tubes!
Here is the picture of my back rim!
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Keep the speed down!
A tube in a tubeless tire is -not- good, but works ok at lower speeds.
My local shop was amazed that I managed to get tubeless tires to seal on tube-rims (cast rims) - that's how I learnt about the down-side of tubes inside tubless tires at higher speeds (130-160km something and up; 180 and up is a no no! R80 GS... you'll be happy just to reach 170km/h I guess...).
My personal experiens is since around 1989 with tubes in tubless tires = never had any problems with it; then my bikes top speeds have all been less than 160km/h.
Should you start running for some time at higher speeds... you do risk to get a tire explosion, and that could be a bit too exciting.
Reference:
http://hem.passagen.se/kabomab/
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It will help both tyre and tube life if you liberally dust the tube and inside of the tyre with talc ( baby powder) when fitting. Also good practice when fitting tubes to tubed wheels/tyres.
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It will help both tyre and tube life if you liberally dust the tube and inside of the tyre with talc ( baby powder) when fitting. Also good practice when fitting tubes to tubed wheels/tyres.
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Never occured to me that anyone might not use talc when fitting tires. Good point!
I use talc liberally/generously when fitting any tires (bicycle, bike, wheelcart, etc) - makes future tire/tube change far easier
To get the tires to set on the rims I use either, Yes! (Fairy)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairy_(brand)
or preferably "Grönsåpa" (tried to find a translation/English equvalent but failed; soft soap):
http://www.grumme.nu/stad/produkter.asp
Såpa - Wikipedia
(Content: aqua, potassium tallate, potassium carbonate, sodium sulfate, parfume, color)
I know one should use a special grease, but soft soap is a functional option.
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Your rim does not look bad at all on the picture. I have seen rims much more damaged than that. Maybe you can sand a bit the inside flange of the rim to make it smooth. You can put tubes w/o any problem and do thousands of KM, but do not decrease too much the pressure on slippery roads.
If your tubeless tires are leaking, before anything else, I would make sure the beads are seated properly (increase the pressure until you hear the "pop" sound. Sometimes very difficult with a small compressor. Do not hesitate to increase the pressure until your hear it and then, decrease the pressure to the normal one for your bike.
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