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I asked about an extended warranty for the 12GS and they quoted me £600 for an additional year!!! Obviously they don't have alot of faith in their own products. LB.
[This message has been edited by mcdarbyfeast (edited 17 November 2005).]
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They just ask you a lot of money coz you just bought the new one  Nowadays it's not just BMW offering pricy guarantee extention.
As for reliability: my old R1100GS took more than 17000km of abuse without any maintenane(!) in middle east the the hardest time august month with temperatures exceeding 45 degrees Celsius while the only jap Yamaha Super Tenere i saw in Iran stood in the corner of Hotel garage because it was broken down from the heat and the Italian professor who rided it got no help from locals and had to cancel his middle east trip. I Hooked up with a Norweigean riding R1200GS to China and had no problems after 20 000+ on the clock coming from Europe with NO MAINTENANCE on the bike. He's was an actor by the way and he rided the bike accordingly, i was amazed he hasn't crashed the bike yet but as he sayed: boxer GS is the most safe enduro there is with ABS and telelever. Not just the bike ideal, but it works if you want it to do so. My 1100 was written by Polish car driver and it was 100% till 60K (the bike was not even shown to the BMW service, all maintenance done by my own) bullet proof the best bike i've ever owned that i got another 1100. And even IF IT WAS UNRELIABLE some how i'd still ride the same one - the engine characteristics, the low grunt and centre of gravity the boxer has along with shaftdrive, telelever and ABS can't be replaced by any other one that brings the same smile into my face travelling with it.
All bikes broke down sooner or later anyway, mostly depending on owners riding style and technical knowledge of the bike. Having owned long term japs before my BMW i can tell this JAP vs EUR thing is mostly for paranoid people having very little technical knowledge about bikes in reality and only want to bash from jelousy (well yes, BMW is one of the most innovative motorcycle companyes on current date - whether you like them or hate them) or any non-empirical experiences any other strange reason.
Now everybody ride own machine and be happy, stop bashing things you never tryed really yourself would be my final word on this
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Now everybody ride own machine and be happy, stop bashing things you never tryed really yourself would be my final word on this
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Amen to that remark from Margus; it is always a problem to detect when expressions of opinion become outright prejudice.
But, it has been funny to read the posts that go back 6-7 years, realising that the Beemer 1200 has been a top seller in the UK ever since it was released.
Anyway, why I really came back on here is to remind Moulin that BMW are due to market a water-cooled version of this bike in 2012. It is rumoured that the current model and the new one will be sold alongside each other while the company assesses the respective sales figures.
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Well, none of the 1200cc bikes are exactly great for off-roading, but it sounds like you are coming off a road bike, so how much "off-roading" do you really plan to do?
The GSA is perfectly capable of gravel and hard-pack dirt. Mud and sand are not so much fun, at least for someone with my limited skills, but the other 1200cc bikes won't be much better.
My guess is that the GSA would be the right bike for you, it is great for travelling and allows you to go almost anywhere you would want to go. Just think twice about going down that muddy single-track, especially if by yourself.
If, on the other hand, you really want to get offroad, you should think about a smaller bike, an 800cc or even better, a 650cc. The 650cc are perfectly capable of "adventure" type travel but of course won't have as much oomph on the long stretches of tarmac.
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As I've been riding a R1200GS for the last 4 years (started with a normal GS), I can tell you that non of the BMW's are a great as BMW would like us to think - I've had my fair share of problems, but they are great bikes.
And looking at the big enduro bikes, non of them in genreal does not have one or two spots which couldn't be improved.
The only thing I was trying to say was that the Adv. is a monster, but if one isn't interested in really taking it off road then it will be a great bike....
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