The Hepco-Becker frames are good (I've used them on an Africa Twin), but they are not as substantial as the Touratech ones. The H-B ones use 15mm tubes, Touratech 18mm. As touratech say in their catalogue: "If you do not need heavy duty mounting racks, these [Hepco-Becker] mounts are a good alternative". The additional problem with the R80GS Basic subframe is that it's not as strong as the R100GS, so I want the pannier frames to strengthen up that area.
I'd say the H-B ones are OK for road use, but I need something more rugged.
Neil
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