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I have these on my GS. Well-made, tough and stable in operation. The only drawback is that they are very small inside, even fully expanded. The cut-out to allow for the exhaust (shown in your pic) takes a lot of space out of them. They are very useful for my needs (daily driver) but I would reckon they are only good for long distance if you travel very light.
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True, but that does encourage discipline in packing
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I travelled with a guy who had them on his. They were okay for the road but oddly shaped inside.
They literally self destructed on poor roads. They became the laughing focal point of our whole trip. They would always fall off the road, pop open, crack etc.
And they are a real PITA to take on and off.
If you're cruising nice roads, they will be fine. For any decent travel, they're terd...
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True, but that does encourage discipline in packing 
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My first thought when I saw them
Ackcherly, they struggle to contain even a fully-loaded official BMW pannier liner. The shape is awkward, with a lot of space at the bottom and a thin space at the top. On the plus side, they are very easy to get on and off, and have so far a been 100% waterproof. I saw a few drops inside after a pressure wash, but nothing in normal rain, even torrential downpours.
As others have said, great for commuting, shopping, everyday use and perhaps civilised touring. The fact that the lower fixings are moulded plastic suggests that they would not survive a rough thousand miles, but if you are planning that kind of trip you would probably be looking for aluminium gear anyway. They are certainly a million times more convenient than soft panniers. I'm happy with mine.
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10% gravel in SA?
It would a pitty to do only 10% of your trip on gravel!!!!
The most beautifull parts on our trip where on the ripio!!
It is most of the time a little slower, but much more fun.
Go see our pics!
www.kisstheride.blogspot.com
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I went for a strom instead which came with Touratech plastic panniers. Having seem them both (and without riding a single mile - so can't comment on sturdiness) I can relate to the size issue - the BMW pannier shape is such that the useable volume is considerably smaller than the roughly equivalent sized Touratechs due to exhaust shenanigans.
Personally I'd rather have the space and not fill it, but I'm sure that's highly subjective. Thanks all for the great help and happy riding.
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