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Weblookup VSB10 has the requirements for entering under a carnet - the only way if you are a tourist.
Quarantine cleaning to "as new standard". You have to be present and pay for the inspection.
Sydney is easier as you can ride out of the port without having to get inspections or permits from the State Government - other States require roadworthy inspections and "overseas registered vehicle permits".
Federal Government controls the entry of vehicles into Australia, but once in Australia the State Governments take over.
If you have a day you can do all the entry paperwork without a customs broker - get the carnet stamped by customs, get the clearance from the shipping company (pay any handling fees), get the quarantine inspection and clearance stamped, usually the customs inspection is done at the same time - push the bike to the gate and then ride off into the Sunset. Invariably the shipping company's offices will be on the opposite side of Sydney to the customs offices - so get a friend or a taxi to run you around.
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30 Mar 2017
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Australia Registration / Insurance
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Originally Posted by RogerM
Sydney is easier as you can ride out of the port without having to get inspections or permits from the State Government - other States require roadworthy inspections and "overseas registered vehicle permits".
Federal Government controls the entry of vehicles into Australia, but once in Australia the State Governments take over.
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Hey RogerM, I've got a year tourist visa to Oz, and about to bring my bike into Sydney on a carnet, the first time I've ever had to purchase a carnet. I was just looking into insurance, which apparently can't be obtained until the bike is registered. What happens in Sydney, do they not register there ? And/Or is it possible to get insurance there without needing to be registered ?
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30 Mar 2017
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OK I'm going to answer my own question here.
NSW does not require visiting overseas vehicles (with carnet) to register. A state CTP insurance is provided automatically, without any inspection, form filling or other form of registration.
Visiting Overseas Vehicles
Get a NSW registration - Registration - Roads - Roads and Maritime Services
But that is only for NSW. When you get to another state the rules change.
Armed with this information it maybe possible to get comprehensive cover from an insurer who understands the NSW regulations. Most insurers just say no until the bike is registered.
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1 Apr 2017
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But that is only for NSW. When you get to another state the rules change.
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Hello
A few years back I had the same problem:
http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...nsurance-57660
#8
My advice is to avoid NSW as a entry for Australia.
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2 Apr 2017
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We have two insurance systems in Australia, third party injury insurance which is compulsory when a vehicle is registered and vehicle insurance which covers damage to your vehicle and another person's property (comprehensive vehicle insurance) or just fire and theft to your vehicle and damage to another person's property.
It is a maze for overseas registered vehicles.
Most online insurers will accept a VIN to obtain vehicle insurance. I have a vehicle at present with comp. insurance that has never been registered.
NSW has gone out alone by allowing vehicles on carnets to use the roads without buying a permit and third party insurance. Some years ago (30 to 40) all of the States in Australia agreed to recognise each other's registration and third party insurance arrangements. So there is legislation in place that says a vehicle legally on the road in WA is legal in NSW and vice versa.
I wrote to VIC RTA and QLD dept of Transport a few years ago and posted their replies on here. And of course I don't have the time to search through my old posts.
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NSW Roads and Maritime Services contact
Hi,
recently whilst talking to our NRMA ( a member of AAA ) about getting a carnet I was told about an email for asking more difficult questions to the RMS.
tech-enq@rms.nsw.gov.au
My question was 'how to renew registration' for my 2004 bike while it was overseas. OK, the answer was not much help: get it inspected by an approved garage that RMS trusts so that they will allow me to re-register the bike in NSW and hence extend the carnet/insurance/documentation. They couldn't however provide a list of approved garages so I'm now thinking of getting a new bike which is re-registerable for another fours years by virtue of being new.
I hope your answers are more useful
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Hi,
recently whilst talking to our NRMA ( a member of AAA ) about getting a carnet I was told about an email for asking more difficult questions to the RMS.
tech-enq@rms.nsw.gov.au
My question was 'how to renew registration' for my 2004 bike while it was overseas. OK, the answer was not much help: get it inspected by an approved garage that RMS trusts so that they will allow me to re-register the bike in NSW and hence extend the carnet/insurance/documentation. They couldn't however provide a list of approved garages so I'm now thinking of getting a new bike which is re-registerable for another fours years by virtue of being new.
I hope your answers are more useful
Andy
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Buy a QLD registered bike and just renew online. Simple.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RogerM
Weblookup VSB10 has the requirements for entering under a carnet - the only way if you are a tourist.
Quarantine cleaning to "as new standard". You have to be present and pay for the inspection.
Sydney is easier as you can ride out of the port without having to get inspections or permits from the State Government - other States require roadworthy inspections and "overseas registered vehicle permits".
Federal Government controls the entry of vehicles into Australia, but once in Australia the State Governments take over.
If you have a day you can do all the entry paperwork without a customs broker - get the carnet stamped by customs, get the clearance from the shipping company (pay any handling fees), get the quarantine inspection and clearance stamped, usually the customs inspection is done at the same time - push the bike to the gate and then ride off into the Sunset. Invariably the shipping company's offices will be on the opposite side of Sydney to the customs offices - so get a friend or a taxi to run you around.
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I'd avoid NSW because of the CTP issue.
You don't need require roadworthy inspections and "overseas registered vehicle permits" since you'll be on the carnet.
We didn't need to be present for the quarantine check - in fact I don't think we'd have been allowed into the bonded area. We did a very good cleaning prior to shipping and Australian customs were happy - no cleaning required, no cost, no problem.
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