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Shipping bike to Australia
I need some advise on shipping a bike to Australia, possibly Sydney or Melbourne. Can you tell me (or give me the websites) the requirements and restrictions on shipping my bike from Vancouver.
I did ship a bike to Europe and that was a simple affair (i.e. no carnet requirement). How long can I keep a bike in OZ? Would I be required to have my bike pass an inspection in OZ? Can insurance coverage be bought prior to arriving in OZ?
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10 Feb 2017
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Weblookup VSB10 has the requirements for entering under a carnet - the only way if you are a tourist.
Quarantine cleaning to "as new standard". You have to be present and pay for the inspection.
Sydney is easier as you can ride out of the port without having to get inspections or permits from the State Government - other States require roadworthy inspections and "overseas registered vehicle permits".
Federal Government controls the entry of vehicles into Australia, but once in Australia the State Governments take over.
If you have a day you can do all the entry paperwork without a customs broker - get the carnet stamped by customs, get the clearance from the shipping company (pay any handling fees), get the quarantine inspection and clearance stamped, usually the customs inspection is done at the same time - push the bike to the gate and then ride off into the Sunset. Invariably the shipping company's offices will be on the opposite side of Sydney to the customs offices - so get a friend or a taxi to run you around.
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30 Mar 2017
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Australia Registration / Insurance
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Originally Posted by RogerM
Sydney is easier as you can ride out of the port without having to get inspections or permits from the State Government - other States require roadworthy inspections and "overseas registered vehicle permits".
Federal Government controls the entry of vehicles into Australia, but once in Australia the State Governments take over.
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Hey RogerM, I've got a year tourist visa to Oz, and about to bring my bike into Sydney on a carnet, the first time I've ever had to purchase a carnet. I was just looking into insurance, which apparently can't be obtained until the bike is registered. What happens in Sydney, do they not register there ? And/Or is it possible to get insurance there without needing to be registered ?
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30 Mar 2017
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OK I'm going to answer my own question here.
NSW does not require visiting overseas vehicles (with carnet) to register. A state CTP insurance is provided automatically, without any inspection, form filling or other form of registration.
Visiting Overseas Vehicles
Get a NSW registration - Registration - Roads - Roads and Maritime Services
But that is only for NSW. When you get to another state the rules change.
Armed with this information it maybe possible to get comprehensive cover from an insurer who understands the NSW regulations. Most insurers just say no until the bike is registered.
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1 Apr 2017
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But that is only for NSW. When you get to another state the rules change.
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Hello
A few years back I had the same problem:
http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...nsurance-57660
#8
My advice is to avoid NSW as a entry for Australia.
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2 Apr 2017
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We have two insurance systems in Australia, third party injury insurance which is compulsory when a vehicle is registered and vehicle insurance which covers damage to your vehicle and another person's property (comprehensive vehicle insurance) or just fire and theft to your vehicle and damage to another person's property.
It is a maze for overseas registered vehicles.
Most online insurers will accept a VIN to obtain vehicle insurance. I have a vehicle at present with comp. insurance that has never been registered.
NSW has gone out alone by allowing vehicles on carnets to use the roads without buying a permit and third party insurance. Some years ago (30 to 40) all of the States in Australia agreed to recognise each other's registration and third party insurance arrangements. So there is legislation in place that says a vehicle legally on the road in WA is legal in NSW and vice versa.
I wrote to VIC RTA and QLD dept of Transport a few years ago and posted their replies on here. And of course I don't have the time to search through my old posts.
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11 Apr 2017
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NSW Roads and Maritime Services contact
Hi,
recently whilst talking to our NRMA ( a member of AAA ) about getting a carnet I was told about an email for asking more difficult questions to the RMS.
tech-enq@rms.nsw.gov.au
My question was 'how to renew registration' for my 2004 bike while it was overseas. OK, the answer was not much help: get it inspected by an approved garage that RMS trusts so that they will allow me to re-register the bike in NSW and hence extend the carnet/insurance/documentation. They couldn't however provide a list of approved garages so I'm now thinking of getting a new bike which is re-registerable for another fours years by virtue of being new.
I hope your answers are more useful
Andy
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13 Apr 2017
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Quote:
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Hi,
recently whilst talking to our NRMA ( a member of AAA ) about getting a carnet I was told about an email for asking more difficult questions to the RMS.
tech-enq@rms.nsw.gov.au
My question was 'how to renew registration' for my 2004 bike while it was overseas. OK, the answer was not much help: get it inspected by an approved garage that RMS trusts so that they will allow me to re-register the bike in NSW and hence extend the carnet/insurance/documentation. They couldn't however provide a list of approved garages so I'm now thinking of getting a new bike which is re-registerable for another fours years by virtue of being new.
I hope your answers are more useful
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Buy a QLD registered bike and just renew online. Simple.
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13 Apr 2017
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Respond with the suggestion that the RMS could trust a garage that does similar inspections for a similar purpose in that country e.g. MOT testers in the UK. (you may also have to include a translation from the countries language to English too ..)(My personal recommendation is to take 2 copies of the last test report with you, one an exact copy, the other with the comments removed so it can be filled out and stamped by the garage of your choice.)
The problem with a new vehicle is that any carnet/insurance costs will be increased by the increased value of being 'new'.
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2 May 2017
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I am trying to figure out how to bring an Indonesian Registered bike (on a carnet ) into Australia ...,
But I am an Australian citizen .., so i am not sure if that is permissible for Australian Citizens to do that or not ?
I am also not sure how long the bike can legally remain in the country for either ?
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9 Jun 2017
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While overseas in the USA with a NSW registered bike we contacted NSW licensing to find out how to keep the bikes registration in NSW current. They told us that we would need to have it inspected by an approved inspector, and that should we find one in the States it wasn't guaranteed that NSW would even accept the inspection anyway. They basically told us that it was tough luck for us and the best way was to take the bike back to Australia to have it inspected. They refused to give us any help or details on what they wanted to see in the inspection report. Suffice to say we have been riding the bike through the Americas unlicensed for 12 months. Thanks NSW for making it harder than it needs to be.
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9 Jun 2017
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I reregistered my NSW bike twice whilst it was in the UK. I talked to my local office before I left and they said they said an MOT inspection was fine but they would only accept it if it was emailed direct to them by the garage to prevent "doctoring". When I did this it worked fine except that the online payment system doesn't work in this case and I had to arrange afriend to go in and pau the bill.
My advice if you go this route is to make friends at your office before you go and try and get a direct email or phone number of a staff member.
Whilst all this worked last time it was a pain. For the next trip the bike will be on Queensland or Victorian rego to avoid the whole inspection issue.
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3 Jul 2017
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Good advice from Martin (navalarchitect). Direct staff contact does help. I am not in NSW but chasing information while in NZ, a direct contact to a staff member takes stress off!
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3 Jul 2017
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Quote:
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I am trying to figure out how to bring an Indonesian Registered bike (on a carnet ) into Australia ...,
But I am an Australian citizen .., so i am not sure if that is permissible for Australian Citizens to do that or not ?
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Possible? Yes.
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Originally Posted by Davo Bali
I am also not sure how long the bike can legally remain in the country for either ?
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12 months max.
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Leaving UK bike in Australia whilst on Carnet
I have a question hopefully one you can help me with. I'm currently planning a RTW motorcycle trip starting in 2022. I'm planning on doing it in 3 stages due to seasonal work commitments. I was planning on leaving my motorcycle at my Brother's house in Manly (Sydney Australia) for 4 months, before completing the Sydney to London leg, but just discovered the Carnet de Passage does not allow for this?? Does anyone on here know of any other options that might be available to me where I can leave the motorbike for 4 months before continuing my journey??? Is the Carnet de Passage attached to your passport in Australia??
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