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Old 14 Feb 2024
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Need Help! - CPT Insurance in AUS for Jeep and Trailer under Carnet from US

Hello,

UPDATE after searching:
I see this issue has come up before and the problem appears to remain the same.
We will be porting in Sydney (NSW) and I can confirm that NSW does NOT require CTP for overseas vehicles in the state while under a Carnet. However, we plan to tour through every state.
If I could find a legal reference for the inter-state agreement where meeting the requirements in one state satisfies the requirements in all, that might also be helpful.

I am brand new here but was referred to the site by a friend of some regular travellers.
My wife and I are shipping our Jeep and Trailer to Australia under a Carnet CPD and will be touring the country for approximately 6 months (May - Dec).
I've been able to confirm every individual state's requirements and all allow a foreign registered vehicle to be used under the foreign registration so long as it is in the country legally under a Carnet (which we will be) and in all cases the vehicle is exempt from needing to be registered in Australia.
However, (nearly) every state also requires that we have Compulsory Third Party (CTP) insurance.

I have contacted numerous agencies in Australia and none can provide insurance unless the vehicle is registered in Australia.

I'm looking for assistance on how to obtain CTP coverage for our vehicle without it needing to be registered.

Many thanks in advance.
Greg

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I understand the challenge. We shipped into Brisbane and out again later (12 months from home - door to door).

FInding out how to get CTP insurance took a while (local authorities, federal authorities, AAA, you name it).

Here's the summary:

CTP from one state (or territory) covers you for all of them.

CdP covers you in terms of legality in the whole country (although don't have any modifications or kit which are against Australia traffic law. If you do you can expect problems).

We obtained CTP insurance from SUNCORP in Queensland - no problem. They knew that it was a foreign vehicle and were happy to issue the policy.

PS: you don;t have to worry about road tolls - they don;t bother trying to collect tolls from the tiny number of foreign vehicles in the country. We set up an account, put 40 dollars in it, and were never charged anything - we must have passed hundreds of toll points (all number plate recognition).
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Thank you very much! That was very helpful.

I had found through the Queensland Government website regarding overseas vehicles being used temporarily in Queensland a link to a list of insurers to contact regarding CPD. Suncorp was at the top of that list
From the Suncorp link, it appears they have a specific option for CTP for unregistered vehicles. I have yet to contact them since it is now Saturday there but will be calling them first thing Monday to learn more.

I do have a lift on the Jeep and larger tires; however, the lift height and suspension travel increase is in compliance with the allowed modification limit per NSW Light Vehicles Modification standard (VSI.06, Rev. 3). The NSW modification limit is not more than 33% of original travel (was 7.88" is now 8.75" or only 11% increase), and is also only 2" (50mm) higher than stock (but actually not higher than the highest OEM option available).

The tire size is larger than it was stock but not larger than the largest size offered (315/70R17) by the manufacturer. The size over stock is also only 5.6% larger and the NSW Modification limit is 7% (was 285/70R17).

Wheel size is right at the limit (25mm over largest size offered by the manf.). Original was 7.5" wide. Largest size offered by the manf is 8" and it is currently fitted with 9".

For my trailer, I actually got it approved and added to the Register of Approved Vehicles (RAV) in Australia. I happens that there is a fairly broad exemption for home made trailers (which mine is) but the trailer was in substantial compliance with the nearly all of the requirements regardless.
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Our Montero has a 50mm lift and Dobinson's suspension - as you say, not a problem. We have a winch at the front, and added a cover to the winch to ensure that it could not be seen as a "dangerous protrusion".

No police checks anywhere. We found it most amusing to go into a workshop for service and see the mechanic jump into the care and discover that there was no steering wheel ... "Hey, mate - your steering wheel's on the wrong side!"...
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