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I had called the Department of Transport yesterday and they denied that there was anything they could do.
This morning, after some insisting and some referrals up the chain of command, they were more helpful and told me i need to:
1. Book an appointment for a vehicle inspection with the DoT vehicle inspection dept.
2. Call the DoT customr service center and get a 48 hour permit for $23 to allow me to ride the motorcycle to the testing center without insurance
3. After the test, i am able to get third party insurance at the testing station
This applies to foreign registered vehicles used in Australia on a CdP
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Yep - that seems the way to do it.
They also mentioned that permit to get to the testing station but in the end I think it was forgotten.
Try to ask if the third party insurance you get covers you in the other Oz states.
Nobody could really answer my question about that...
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What a load of nonsense, for starters if this was a proper inspection your headlights would be pointing the wrong way.
I smell a scam going on here.
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What a load of nonsense, for starters if this was a proper inspection your headlights would be pointing the wrong way.
I smell a scam going on here.
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Nah - I dont think there is a deliberate scam concerning this. The country of Australia has recognised the Carnet system as a way (the only way?) for a foreigner to temporary import his vehicle while travelling within the country.
But a Carnet temporary imported vehicle also need a compulsorary third party insurance - which normally each songle state provides. Or a commercial insurance company - but then again a commercial insurance company in most cases dont want to insure a foreign vehicle on a Carnet it seems. Then we are left with what each single states offer. And they offers are not well suited for a person who wants to travel around and visit several different states as what each single state provides seems to cover only that particular state.
This is the way I understand it at least. I could be wrong of course.....
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Nah - I dont think there is a deliberate scam concerning this. The country of Australia has recognised the Carnet system as a way (the only way?) for a foreigner to temporary import his vehicle while travelling within the country.
But a Carnet temporary imported vehicle also need a compulsorary third party insurance - which normally each songle state provides. Or a commercial insurance company - but then again a commercial insurance company in most cases dont want to insure a foreign vehicle on a Carnet it seems. Then we are left with what each single states offer. And they offers are not well suited for a person who wants to travel around and visit several different states as what each single state provides seems to cover only that particular state.
This is the way I understand it at least. I could be wrong of course.....
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Not quite right, there is an inter states agreement that a vehicle which is legal in one state is legal in the next, so if you have an "overseas registered vehicle permit" issued in Western Australia and have bought the third party insurance then you can use your vehicle in all of the states.
A complication has been caused by NSW allowing overseas registered vehicles to use the roads without any third party insurance or "overseas registered vehicle permit". A vehicle arriving in NSW from overseas can be driven out of the port without any fuss. The untested legal issue is can you rely upon "I was legal in NSW so I am legal elsewhere" argument. There are so few overseas registered vehicles in Australia at anyone time I am amazed that the road authorities in all states have not followed NSW's lead. The cost of the overseas permits must far outweigh the revenue generated.
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Well - I am not australian and thus dont know all of the rules and regulations there. But I can tell what the staff at the Department of Traffic/Vehicle inspection center in NT said to me and that is that the third party insurance they sold me after the roadworthiness test was passed for my bike [U]does not give any cover in any other state than NT[U] So the socalled interstate agreement you mention is not actually so interstate. And when I did the same thing in WA, got my bike inspected and found roadworthy and insurance was offered for sale to me nobody could really tell me if I am covered in any other state than WA buy that insurance purchased in WA.
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The lady at the testing station assured me that the WA third party insurance would cover me across Australia. So as long as I have a document that has an expiry date and says insurance in going to assume I'm covered.
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The lady at the testing station assured me that the WA third party insurance would cover me across Australia. So as long as I have a document that has an expiry date and says insurance in going to assume I'm covered.
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Thanks for the information Divelandy. I hope your lady is correct! 
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Well - I am not australian and thus dont know all of the rules and regulations there. But I can tell what the staff at the Department of Traffic/Vehicle inspection center in NT said to me and that is that the third party insurance they sold me after the roadworthiness test was passed for my bike [U]does not give any cover in any other state than NT[U] So the socalled interstate agreement you mention is not actually so interstate. And when I did the same thing in WA, got my bike inspected and found roadworthy and insurance was offered for sale to me nobody could really tell me if I am covered in any other state than WA buy that insurance purchased in WA.
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My experience of traffic depts. in Australia is that they make up their own rules as they go along ignoring whatever the Acts and regulations say. I've had one employee tell me that Queensland Transport's database of "rules" over rides the Act. The quality of staff in most of the traffic depts. is very dubious, a lot of them are now paid a bonus on their throughput, so the out of the ordinary request that requires research gets the easiest (to them) answer, which is usually "No". Just because an Australian civil servant says something does not make it so!!!
South Australia's website about insurance https://www.sa.gov.au/topics/transpo...arty-insurance
Western Australia https://www.icwa.wa.gov.au/ctp/about/ctp_faqs.shtml
etc etc for the other States.
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Austalian CTP Insurance for UK bike on a Carnet
Hi Guys,
I`m getting very mixed information on the above and certainly no clarity. Has someone had recent experience of obtaining CTP in NSW?
I`ve read on here that if shipping in to NSW you are covered under the Nominal Defendant scheme, however this is what the NSW authorities have to say on the website - "(c) if, at the time the motor accident resulting in the death or injury occurred, the motor vehicle was registered under the law of a place other than New South Wales or under a law of the Commonwealth and the motor vehicle was covered under a policy of compulsory third-party personal injury insurance or was subject to coverage under a compulsory motor vehicle accident compensation scheme of that place or of the Commonwealth." As I have to keep the UK reg for the Carnet, this scheme dosen`t seem to apply.
Help please.......
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Hello
A few years back I had the same problem:
http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...nsurance-57660
#8
My advice is to avoid NSW as a entry for Australia.
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As I understand things, please correct me if I'm wrong, if your motorcycle is registered and insured in your home country, you can ride it in Australia for 6 months without buying any insurance at all. You will be covered for 3rd Party Person Damage under the "Nominal Defendant Scheme".
A firm in the UK, Millers Insurance, Phone: +44 20 7031 2590, will insure a motorcycle that is registered and insured in its home country, against theft and damage. The guy to speak to is Scott Sinfield. Scott's e-mail is: scott.sinfield@miller-insurance.com
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