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If I decide with my body/soul/mind/wallet/desire for proven reliability etc etc
There can be only one- The Toyota Hilux-
Anyone who says any different is entitled to their wrong opinion!!!!  Lock 'n load!
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Originally Posted by Bertrand
If I decide with my body/soul/mind/wallet/desire for proven reliability etc etc
There can be only one- The Toyota Hilux-
Anyone who says any different is entitled to their wrong opinion!!!!  Lock 'n load!
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Do you travel with a Hilux??
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Do you travel with a Hilux??
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I do, D4D 2.5 pickup - Truckman top blah blah blah
Even rigged with a hot shower heated up from engine- Life's a 
One recommendation is to feed it clean diesel- a Mr Filter helps keep the crud and the water out from some supplies... Modern common rail Toyos are sensitive to and do not like debris-filled fuel-!
(bring your own water and cough up 3 euro if you want a hot shower ! )
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bertrand
I do, D4D 2.5 pickup - Truckman top blah blah blah
Even rigged with a hot shower heated up from engine- Life's a 
One recommendation is to feed it clean diesel- a Mr Filter helps keep the crud and the water out from some supplies... Modern common rail Toyos are sensitive to and do not like debris-filled fuel-!
(bring your own water and cough up 3 euro if you want a hot shower ! )
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Nice! I have a 1993 2.4, with a rear deck for putting a tent on. Looks like a normal vehicle and blends in everywhere. You don't get anywhere fast, but you always get there!
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Much as I like Land Rovers, the Defender is cobbled together with poor build quality, weak running gear and chassis' that should have been galvanised from new instead of rotting badly like they do. As mentioned, if you like fixing and tinkering with things, the Land Rovers will do it, if not buy a Toyota.
Also which market (country) are you buying and preparing a vehicle in ? if you are in the UK, Defender parts are pretty cheap, I wouldn't bother trying to build a Defender in North America as parts here are bloody expensive.
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Thanks for the info and opinions guys, keep 'em coming!
I LOVE the Toyota Hilux, always have, I had one back when I lived in Kenya and would love to get one for when I'm more settled. But I didn't think it was the right choice for this kind of trip, perhaps I should reconsider it in the runnings. . . .
I wasn't planning on getting a new model, older models are better to find spare parts for and besides, the older they are the better they look.
I've driven both vehicles but don't have a massive amount of experience with either, most of my experience was with the Hilux, so I know Toyotas more than the Landy's.
Am hoping to get the vehicle in South Africa rather than UK. Last time I checked it was a little cheaper out there and they're already kitted out for off road travel. But I haven't looked into the red tape of buying one in SA yet.
My feelings right now are that I'm leaning more towards Toyota. I'm no mechanic, and although I'll be brushing up on my mechanical knowledge before I leave ideally I want a vehicle that is mechanically sound as possible!
I'll have to be really picky when I purchase, make sure it's an older model, but not an overused vehicle.
Thanks again people!
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If you want to go on an expedition, take a landrover, if you want to come back again, take a Toyota!
Toyota parts are eyewateringly expensive compared to Landrover, but then, you'll need less of them!
a good 80 series TLC is probably the best buy in the UK, a 70 series elswhere. Landrover is probably only worth thinking about in the UK because of the massive number of specialists and aftermarket bits available. 200 or 300tdi is the only landie worth considering IMHO.
A lot of Toyota drivers have had landies in the past (me included). very few go back to the landie.
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Have you any experience of either ?, or any other 4x4 for that matter ?
If not then its mostly down to personal preference , all have pos and neg , and how important each of these is will decide which one you plump for .
I am a Landrover person , but that doesnt mean a land cruiser is rubbish .
A defender or cruiser take your pick , a hilux isnt in same area . Which ever you decide needs to be diesel , and neither will walk on water, also dont think that you can take the kitchen sink , as the heavier it gets the more problems you will have. The biggest factor for reliability is its previous life , and how well it was serviced and maintained . In both makes you dont want the latest , as the more modern you get the less suited they are for remote travel , to the point that EU emission vehicles may need modification to even run on 3rd world diesel. HTSH
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