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I am not trying to avoid understanding Snakeboy; I am very happy with my bike and understand perfectly well its strengths and weaknesses.
What I, along with others in this thread, am doing is trying to provide the OP with a bit of balance to your ‘only I know best’ views (is it really credible to condescendingly dismiss someones 40,000 miles of experience of riding a Z as irrelevant because they haven’t done 100,000 miles, yet hold out your opinion on the DR650 based upon a 6 week trip?), whilst attempting (and now failing) to ignore the rude and condescending way you make your points.
Really, it is not a very nice way to behave.
That’s me out of this thread, it is not why I use forums like this. My sincere apologies to the OP that this thread has degenerated in this way - don’t get talked out of the Z & R based upon this discussion alone.
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If you dont have any other things to mention other than complaining about my behaviour - it seems your pretty out of valid points. And that coming from a person that on the last page said after only mentioning his own relatively short experiences with the Ten concluded with «a very reliable bike». You totally ignore all the examples I mentioned on people who have had their RTW trips ruined by Teneres who failed miserably. If you think my 200 000 is invalid its perfectly ok - but please at least pay attention to the other examples I have mentioned.
What was it you wrote - «not a very nice way to behave» Not a logical one either or mind broadening either for that sake.
Im out of this thread too btw since mentioning real life experiences now is considered bad behaviour...
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There's enough rudeness on this thread for everyone to have their share. Fortunately, there's lots of useful information as well.
Here's my suggestion, speaking as moderator: each contributor go back to your posts and look each use of the word "you." Complaining about what "you" said, meant, implied, or wrote is a poor start if hoping to contribute information which will be listened to respectfully.
Calmly stating direct experiences or the results of research works very well, especially if offering a balance of positive and negative; long diatribes not so much. Quality information and tone will convey the message--it's not necessary to tear into someone else's opinions, which, in fact, will tend to make the poster sound less like a source of information and more like an angry partisan.
Hope that's useful.
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If you dont have any other things to mention other than complaining about my behaviour
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 Are you kidding right now? He literally posted a wall of text with arguments...
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Originally Posted by Snakeboy
Im out of this thread too btw since mentioning real life experiences now is considered bad behaviour...
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Oh come on...
You literally said this as your first reply to me:
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"Theres many things I could have mentioned but you still wouldnt have the capacity to understand but here are a few things..."
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Don't kid yourself here.
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well i knew that 600-650 suzook DRs had issues with rod bearings, turns out also 3rd gear.... so not only XTs.....
see @ 0:45 and 3:00...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAygQmnOxOw
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